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Mike Shanahan Presser Recap

  1. Niles Paul out for a couple of weeks with turf toe
  2. Leonard Hankerson earned another start Sunday vs. Miami
  3. Finally admitted we're rebuilding, kind of...
  4. Tashard Choice should begin practicing this week
  5. Jammal Brown's status is still uncertain after a groin injury

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Shanny said this with some laughter but still interesting:
“I’m the one who told Kyle not to come (two years ago). This is going to be a work in progress.”
Don't forget

the use of the word ‘rebuilding’. Was reluctant to use it. Asked for reporters to define it but never fully denied that they were rebuilding the team. Even admitting that he told Kyle that it would be a rebuild.

I just don't understand the stigma around this word

Anyone who has watched the Redskins over the past decade KNOWS this team needed a rebuild. I suppose it comes down to marketing: they think game attendance or team interest will go down drastically if they don’t trot out a “seemingly competitive” team.

Well news flash: fans are going to lose interest if year after year, you trot out old washed up free agents in the name of jersey sales.

This team is going in the right direction, for the first time in a long time (hell, first time since I’ve been a fan). We all just need to take a deep breath and let the rebuild happen.

Also mentioned

that Beck took too long to get rid of the ball against Buffalo, but might have been too quick to get rid of it against San Fran.

he was sacked 6 times in under 2.5 seconds according to ESPN stat gurus.

if that is true, that comment is bunk

but it is not surprising that the QB acts frantically if he is not sure how long he will remain upright. campbell had the same problem..and he is a lot bigger!

Niles Paul out for a couple of weeks with turf toe

WILL NOT AFFECT THE OUTCOME OF THE GAME

Leonard Hankerson earned another start Sunday vs. Miami

WELL, THAT IS GOOD NEWS

Finally admitted we’re rebuilding, kind of…

WE KNOW/ WE HOPE

Tashard Choice should begin practicing this week

WHO CARES

Jammal Brown’s status is still uncertain after a groin injury

REALLY WISH WE HAD A BETTER OPTION TO REPLACE HIM

Tashard Choice
WHO CARES

Once again this is the missed point of too many when who is being added by the Redskins, Is choice an option for this offense, maybe but the key is if he is an option at the age of 26 he has time to be a part of the rebuilding.

Disagree, he will not be part of this team next year
Disagree with your disagreement...

I think there is a strong chance that Choice is here next year. I wouldn’t count on Hightower coming back at full strength. Helu, Torain and Royster could possibly be the guys next year, but Choice has the big play ability that Royster just doesn’t have. Unless Hillis makes his way to DC, I would seriously expect Choice to return

Whomever replaces Jamaal Brown is a better option than he is
nope. not the case
how do you figure??
Locklear has been less than impressive.

In the name of youth, I wouldn’t be at all opposed to see how Willie Smith reacts when thrown into the fire. We need to know whether we need to draft a tackle in the 1st/2nd or 3rd/4th next April.

Completely agree

Problem is we just invested stupid amounts of money and years into Brown

i don't mind putting in Smith, but Locklear played better than Brown did on Sunday

Locklear is a better RT that seems to be a fact

I can't argue with that.
Sucks that Paul gets injured just when the young guys start getting opportunities for more play time.
Yea and just when I was hoping he'd take over return duties...
We get all the breaks, don't we?
I know- it could have completely turned the season around ;)
Austin could do it for now.
please

Learn a lesson from the QB controversy and avoid a controversy by benching/cutting Banks.

Are you serious?
lol

sadly….he is.

I'm a girl, for future reference.
So you aren't Jewish and you are a girl?
Joke on Camden Chat

I am Jewish, and I’m a girl.

Now you are blowing my mind
That's what she said.
*sadly...she is.

better?

...what?
banks

will not be here next year unless they push that line back. what has he done lately in what have you done lately league?

Let me backpedal and say that controversy was the wrong word

Avoid coup d’etat by benching/cutting Banks.

In otherwords just cut his ass.
Or an angry mob (armed with pitchforks) may show up at Shanahan's door.
by "mob", you mean Banks' mom right?
um the mob would come if he DIDN'T cut Banks

I’m pretty surprised such an event hasn’t occurred already.

Ah, now I see.

At first, I thought you were saying there’d be a mob if he WAS cut.

We’re on the same page now.

da fuck?

I’d be surprised if his mom would show up. Too much shame.

I believe that is French for "just cut his ass"
Didn't someone

Already try that, over the summer?

huh?
Whoops

I meant offseason

February is the summer

In Australia. Topless beaches. Woohoo

they need to bring him at wr

if he gets hurt then oh well.. we can cut him. if he makes some big plays we can trade him for a good draft pick… just letting return kicks on a team that is going for a top draft pick is kinda pointless

I love it

When you talk like that. Almost makes me forget I’m on a football message board.

Why thank you.

I feel so smart.

I was a huge Banks fan

He’s not the same guy. The breath taking speed and change of direction isn’t there. He doesn’t pound the ground when he gets tackled anymore. There’s no reason to keep him around, honestly. If he does elsewhere and does great good for him, but he looks like he’s given up, and just doesn’t have ‘it’. This offense can’t keep starting short of the 20.

I'm telling you man, he was an optical illusion...
The breath taking speed and change of direction isn’t there.
Not according to Madden 2012
I’m telling you man, he was an optical illusion… The breath taking speed and change of direction isn’t there.
I was at games with him last year

The guy was a Gazelle amongst Wildebeasts. This year he doesn’t look as fast. I know mph wise he probably wan’t any faster, but honestly that guy had ‘it’ – maybe ‘it’ was cut out of him?

Has he been doing anything?

Haven’t been able to follow you guys much recently.

He was a great blocker in the run game

Otherwise not much. He was also a little more active in the pass game as of late. He’ll definitely be missed on special team, however. Paul delivered some great hits.

That's pretty much what I expected from him.

It’s a shame he didn’t get moved to safety at Nebraska.

We still have like 10 WR's, right?

why can’t one of those guys return punts/ko’s?

Thought this was a great was to put where the Redskins currently are...

From Proffotball Talk comments section for an article regarding the Redskins.

wethog66 says:
Nov 7, 2011 9:41 AM
Mike Shanahan was hired to fix the complete and utter mess that LiL Danny and Uncle Vinny Cerrato made of this franchise over the last decade. The amount of over-priced, over-hyped players on the Skins roster when Shanahan took over was a joke. The team needed to be stripped of that **** and start over by adding young players through the draft and adding quality veteran players through FA. To this point Shanahan has done that, he just chose to address the defense first.

As a Skins fan games like yesterday, and againt Buffalo, are hard to take, but I expected it. Especially when injuries started to mount. The Skins offense is a joke, but at least young/promising players like Helu, Hankerson, Austin, and Paul are getting valuable experience. Now if the offense isn’t adequately addressed in this coming draft and offseason I will be very worried, but with 11 million in cap space at this time, and a good amount of draft picks for the 2012 draft, I have hope.

And enough of Skins fans bitching and moaning on the radio and message boards. Especially the "Hail-tards" that have magically disappeared from this site. This franchise is in the 2nd year of a desperately needed rebuild. Suck it up, stop the whining, and support the young guys playing their hearts out to get better. Its what real Skins fans do.
Hail-tards

I like it

I'm pretty ecstatic he admitted this was a rebuild

Now, will people stop bitching and let it happen already?

Of course not

He should be fired just for admitting it.

why?

he got himself another year as head coch by admitting the team is rebuilding

Yeah, I agree. He honestly tip towed around saying

He should have been more direct.

I was being sarcastic

Making fun of everyone that wants to fire Shanny because he hasn’t delivered 3 Lombardis in 2 years.

That's what I figured...

You’ve been pretty pro-Shanny all day from what I remember.

Yeah I'm just sick of the coaching carousel

I’ve been living out west through the Danny’s ownership and it gets hard being laughed at so much by other teams fans.

I hate that stupid graphic they use during every game

where they list every coach that we’ve had under The Danny. I HATE IT.

…lol well come on…he hasnt developed an offense in two years, two drafts, two free agencies, boat loads of cap space.

in fact, he has added one legit starter who has underperformed (williams) and gave away one (campbell).

and before you go there…williams hasnt been any better at LT than JC was at QB

of course, I hope that changes and expect it to. but i feel an honest expectation was 3-4 legitimate starters over that time period with those resources. heck, he could have done that with using only the two top 10 picks and two top 40 picks.

so yeah…it’s fair to say he underperformed

Off topic, but thought I'd put this in here.

@JasonLaCanfora:

“Redskins looking to add a depth WR today. Making some calls (no, not to TO or Randy Moss, as a preemptive answer). More like journeyman vets”

They do that nearly every Tuesday...
That is true. Tuesday is the NFL's tryout day
I wish the hell

They’d try out some damned quarterbacks.

Actually JaMarcus Russell, Jake Delhomme, JT O'Sullivan, Eric Crouch, Marc Bulger, and Marcus Vick are trying out tomorrow

Whoever throws a vortex the farthest gets the starting job Sunday. They each get five attempts.

the vortex

ah that line has me rolling

Is it sad

That I’m actually looking at that list going…

I hope they pick up Marcus Vick

if for no reason other than I could say that even I’ve tackled our QB.

How's my guy Crompton (or something like that) doing?
Eric Crouch is healthy enough to play again?

He went on IR after his first UFL game this year.

Donte Stallworth isn't a crappy enough option at the journeyman vet WR position?
(Ring, Ring) "Hey Brandon (Stokley), what about now?"
what ron gardner up to
F that noise

Bring back the Posse.

Wherefore art thou

Oh Malcolm Kelly?

Recovering from hamstring replacement surgery
how bout those two rookie terps receivers getting it done for balt...key plays!
How bout those Terps currently playing for Maryland! WOOOOO
Isn't he (Stokley) with the Patriots?
I think he is coaching now
You're thinking of Furrey

Stokley was on the Giants for like a week or two then got hurt and reached an injury settlement.

For the second time in two days...

what about Marko Mitchell!! haha

This also comes from Jason La Canfora

which means we are actually trying out long snappers.

Why do people listen to La Canfora?

Wh does LaCanfora work for NFLN? I think he just sits in his basement and retweets what Adam Schefter says.
I'm not his biggest fan,

and this is my favourite theory as to what he does 90% of the time (I had the same thought a while back). But credit where credit is due, he named every one of our free agent targets before free agency started this offseason.

Sorry, not every one.

But he named a fair few. Nobody even thought about Cofield until LaCanfora mentioned him. We made offers to both Yanda and Holmes as he claimed we would, and we were rumored to have sniffed around the Jenkins brothers.

Yea, I'm not so sure how many of those thoughts were original...

I remember his piece in July, but many of those moves were common sense.

La Cantforya

Is a dweeb who got lucky landing that Redskins Insider job, then kissed enough ass along the way to get a job with the NFL network. Frankly, think he shoulda lost his credentials after that Haynesworth crap. Hell, I wouldn’t be surprised if THAT’S what got him this job.
He’s the only guy in the world that actually makes Snyder sympathetic to me.

He's like Nostradamus

if you predict everything to happen, you’re going to hit on something sometime.

lol

+1

people listen to JLC....

because they feel bad for starring at this left eye

so long as he does not touch that O line

I am lurking in the shadows on the movie rights for how to win a superbowl …i mean how to win eight games with a $10mm O line in the NFL

it’s a sci fi movie lol

Worth repeating:

“And enough of Skins fans bitching and moaning on the radio and message boards. Especially the “Hail-tards” that have magically disappeared from this site. This franchise is in the 2nd year of a desperately needed rebuild. Suck it up, stop the whining, and support the young guys playing their hearts out to get better. Its what real Skins fans do."

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