Hogs Haven

I assumed that the "C" on the jerseys stood for "Captain"?

Between trent Williams, DeAngelo Hall and now Santana Moss, I have to assume it stands for “cretin”.

Fucking idiots.

Stephen Beagrie - January 1, 2012 reply

Halftime Draft Position Update

1. Indy: losing 10-3
2. Rams: losing 20-7
3. Vikings: losing 14-13
4. Browns: late game
5. Bucs: late game
6. Redskins: losing 10-0
7. Jacksonville: winning 10-3
8. Miami: losing 10-6

Matt Flynn looking good at the half for the Packers.

I’m just saying…

Stephen Beagrie - January 1, 2012 reply

I'm watching N.O. - Car on my other channel

never been more convinced that we need to get a real-deal QB – between Brees’ all-time season yds and now all-time season comps, and Cam’s comp/yds/TDs for rookies.

SkinsFanInHawaii - January 1, 2012 reply

Cam needs 1 more passing yard for 4,000 on the season.

I love Tombstone Pizza

Matt Flynn

Anybody watching future starting QB for your washington Redskins Matt Flynn today?

cam newton

possible wrist injury

Is it me or is rexy just lobbing his throws?

yeah - for the last 5 or 6 games if you ask me

what ever happened to the Dragon?!

Yeah, I like the dragon.

Some of those throws are bound to be tds instead of ints. Come on Rex, its probability!

Nice to see the run game back

looks like the old '84 Auburn/Bo Jackson deep-toss dive play

not a bad mix

TTTTTDDDDD!!!!

GO HELU!!!!!!

what heart

HELU!!!!

Nice

Now get him outta there.

+1

I think he is just cramping up

He should be fine

yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss TD

mo19678 - January 1, 2012 reply

someone with guts

awesome play there

HELLO HELU!!!

the Eagles are a bunch of losers

The stands are half empty. One bad season in 15, and they don’t show up and just boo. Man can Philly be the first city taken in the armageddon this year?

its new years day...i will give them a pass

no pass

No excuses.

Live Helu

Great block by Hurt

WestCoastHokie - January 1, 2012 via mobile reply

Good job zebras calling another dumbass penalty

+1

WestCoastHokie - January 1, 2012 via mobile reply

we even fail celebrating

Don't blame Stallworth

Our offense doesn’t know how to act after getting a TD, but they’re learning

so do you think Shanny made a good decision to move up to take Helu?

friggin heart this kid has

I think Shanny made a lot of good decisions this past draft

looking forward to seeing what happens this year

What did Donte do?

he went down like he was shining Roy's shoes.

or massaging his bad toe.

Funny cuz

Helu couldn’t give a damn about celebrating

went to the ground

for his celebration… apparently he was so shocked he temporarily passed out.

damn team celebration, huh?

yup. whatever, it’s the last game. have some fun… Hel(U) of a run!!!

Finally scored from out of the red zone

I’d like to see us do that more often.

alwaysremember21 - January 1, 2012 reply

We have to do something about the interior line on on place kicks

They completely collapsed it again on the PAT.

WestCoastHokie - January 1, 2012 via mobile reply

Helu just put the team on his back

Screw Greg Jennings its all about ROY HELU

Luck goes to Indy.

That is one slimy franchise. Sneak out of baltimore, and when a gret franchise QB come around, they tank the season. That is dirty.

Can you blame them

for wanting out of Baltimore?

has niles paul ever played RB?

Both active running backs being worked on by the trainers...not good.

Looks like LorAx

Is gonna get some carries

+1

well regardless of what you think of Shann, the man knows RB's

yeah...and it took his son 11 weeks to figure out how to use them

heh no argument here

Do we go five wide the rest of the game?

God I hope not

That would mean Rex dropping back the rest of the game.

Put beck in at rb

done yet?

nope...how about Paulsen

actually...do you think Doughty is better on offense?

Should we bring Portis out of retirement?

he looked in pain when he ran.

Still managed to get the 6pts. Amazing..

That's called heart.

I say we put Banks in at running back.

Okay time for Rak to get the hat trick

Nevermind

tough to do without pads on

He's so badass he doesn't need pads

Big difference between gimping after a play and gimping FULL Blast into the end zone..

Way to play through pain brother. I hope the rest of the team learned a little about heart on that play. We DO NOT QUIT!

ShaneNC - January 1, 2012 via mobile reply

the Anti-Portis

Royster went to the locker room.

Vick just passed the ball

Vick threw again.

yea, I thought we were typing things we see on tv

We were.

well this is odd

Is it just me

Or does it seem like we lose half our team to injuries everytime we play Philly?

Nattyhat - January 1, 2012 via mobile reply

Jackson starting the half at OLB

Orakpo is questionable the rest of the way

I'm loving our d'

Haha

Westbrook didn’t even kiss him first

g'damnit Doughty

Rams just got a field goal.

That's a weak call

seriously?

Oh Jesus christ

apparently tackling is illegal

He didn't even hit him, WTF???

That was a bs call

yet again.

Best pass defense DHall has had all year

DHall LOCKDOWN!

Hall must've been talking shit

I the Vick did that on purpose

Brees is going to put that yardage record waaaaay out of reach.

they are rolling into the playoffs.

Cofield!!!

DOUGHTY!!!

reed with more stellar d

how do we only have 7 points?

Because they have a decent QB

is that a trick question?

kind of...

it is funny…I thought we actually scored in the first half….not sure why….

guys are tentative when these bullshit personal fouls are being called

Rees keeps showing blitz

I wish he’d just do it, rather than drop to coverage

The eagles have won 3 nfl title

Thats apparently a big deal in philly

redskinhokie88 - January 1, 2012 reply

Gomes doing his Landry impersonation

Yeah, like 70 years ago

Haha

Reply fail

I like this new dirtier Doughty

even though his penalties have been mostly awful calls

Ken Meringolo - January 1, 2012 reply

Did you see him

Effing with the ref that last play?

He's always played with heart

and tried to hit hard. We’re just seeing more of him this year it seems.

doughty cant catch

unreal...

i ate lunch around 1

Unreal

my tv is on

He was just afraid of it

might get a penalty to catching it too hard

good point

careful Skins you might be called a Steeler fan by some around here

Not possible... Reed didn't spear the football

and then cry about it for the entire week

no but he did look at the ref pretty hard...getting kinda dangerous

Bowen. Riley Fletcher

i really dig our interior D

I just saw Royster run back out during that play..

Alright our offense is well rested for this next drive

^^^ Nominated for most optimistic quote of the year

+1 lol

did I see an O-lineman blocking into the end zone on that replay?

on a passing down – isn’t that illegal or something? kindof like grabbing a DE around the neck and taking him to the ground but not getting called for it illegal?

Banks = waisted roster spot

I know he is our highest rated passer but…

WestCoastHokie - January 1, 2012 via mobile reply

I mean his waist is pretty small.

Reed Doughty

has to make that catch. His inability to make plays on the ball is a problem.

el freako - January 1, 2012 reply

it wouldn't have mattered

Celek was out of bounds when the ball bounced off of him. it wouldn’t have mattered

dude, he's a backup safety, give it a rest

Wouldn't have mattered

Celek was out of bounds

Royster back in.

Brandon Banks EVERYBODY!

Miami just scored. If they can hold on we might move up.

We're already in front of them, doesn't matter

lol Starks fell down that shit was hilarious!

-1 for lol

facepalm

That's my resolution is to eradicate "lol" from male dominated blogs

roger that chief

Can we replace it with "Tee Hee"?

yea that's cool

dunno the 'lol' might be feminine but 'teehee' is just gay

no need for that

Is LMMFAO okay ?

EldonD - January 1, 2012 reply

I would think the presence of the F makes it good, but I’m no Parks Smith

lol remember when the dolphins had luck in their control

-1 for lol

damn we gotta get 7 here

RG3 is hoping we do as well

I see Allen is .5 sacks away from the record

I wonder if Chicago will call a roll out/lay down to give it to him. Worked so well for Strahan

just triple teamed him.

what the fuck

Rex taking care of our draft

Damn

Almost got it outta the way

Grossman got lucky there

and there it goes!

congrats on 21 rexy!!!!

Don't worry...he'll get it

Ken Meringolo - January 1, 2012 reply

Rex is asking for a challenge

He wants that second INT

Lol Rex is just Rex, we use to good Rex or bad Rex.

Alright just need to make sure if they trying to get either one. Would be good to see Rex Ryan miss the playoffs.

you've GOT to be kidding me. how is that the decision with all of that time Rex

How dare you question the Sex Cannon

YOU GOTTA UNLEASH THE DRAGON

Banks!! Lol

-1 for Lol

haha banks

+1 for haha

I've been telling yall how good Banks is at WR

Haha

+1 for Haha

BS!!

but good little screen

Totally just justified his spot

He's great when he can break one off

Just like that should have been td from last week.

He does well on screens

would love to see him run other routes to validate his spot.

your boy

I still struggle to see him here next year

Ken Meringolo - January 1, 2012 reply

I wish

patriots spot buffalo 21 points

they now lead 28-21, amazing

they did the same to miami last wk

heh

they just wanted to give them a head start

I want to see Neild in as RB

cuz… why not?

yeah the "fridge" ran the ball. why not

WTF??

Lions just scored

Gaffney, Stallworth, Moss

So interesting.

not exactly lions, tigers, and bears huh

Gaffney, Hank, Blackmon

what a waste

Lol @SkinsLifer

I would rather you gave me a "tee hee"

+1 for tee hee

We could even shorten it up by typing T-He.

Now you're thinking!

-1 for Lol

We're a second half juggernaut

Yeah, that's are problem

We’d be 16-0 if only the game didn’t end so fast

Is it sad that I'm waiting for Gano to get a kickoff blocked?

of just whiffing the ball

Yes

I'm 29 years old.. I don't tee hee.. But keep them coming

But you stil LOL?

I'm 40 years old... life's too short not to tee hee : )

+1

It is the added bonus that you get with your physical at 40 that make you tee hee

WestCoastHokie - January 1, 2012 via mobile reply

Kinda makes "turn your head and cough" seem like a tease, doesn't it

Question to the Hog Nation?

Who are you rooting for tonite not that it matters. The cowgirls or the shiants? I think it will be a sad day for us if the cow pukes win.

Giants

no question... the giants

Not rooting for either.

Just for the Cowboys to lose

Hey Parks you going to do a thread?

As a reminder, another game thread will be posted for the Cowgirls vs Midgets game at 7pm. Merry New Year.

Giants

No question

Cowgirls can never be rooted for by a Redskins fan

Kinda hoping

The stadium implodes

i cannot ever root for Dallas

the small consolation is that thier winner is probably going to get Detroit… they brutalized Dallas earlier this year, it would be an interesting game w/ Giants. plus I can live with NYG going since we owned them this year

Another case of great tackling

WestCoastHokie - January 1, 2012 via mobile reply

Lmao!! @SkinsLifer

He's on a roll

ne 35-21 wow

Jesus

What's up?

Now that was sad

How does that happen to us only?

Blah

Crap

matt flynn for president

Sure does throw a nice deep ball

not a bad audition at all

Matt Flynn then Jonathan Martin with our 1st picks sounds good to me

we dont spend the picks to trade up

and yes jonathon martin would be fantastic

The obligatory D.Jax big play on us...

maybe he will sign with us as a reward?

Yea who wouldn't want an offensive version of DHall!

I'll take him. He is exactly what we need.

I think

He is the epitome of what we DON’T need.

A deep play threat that wants the ball?

a cancer

A me first, second, and third

Prima Dona showboat who hurts his team with idiotic antics all the time

He's a talented receiver and would be an easy #1 on this team.

don't care

he would be detrimental to the team culture Shanahan has established.

Easily man... no brainer... would really be positive influence on a rookie QB and young team

that was a joke...exactly the Snyder type of signing that makes no sense

Please no

with a bracket coverage.

that guy really gets on my nerves. and why does everybody who plays shitty always break their drought against us?!?!?
I’m sick of being “get-well tonic” for the rest of the f@#$@# league. This is why we dont get calls & shit.

19-13 jax

21-12-19 pax

its over colts are a joke

Why did we put Aldrick Robinson on the roster

if they’re not putting him on punt returns?

keep other teams from signing him off of our practice squad

Someone was trying to scoop him from our PS

He’s not even active. A bit of a head scratcher I agree.

WestCoastHokie - January 1, 2012 via mobile reply

I'd take him too.. Would you guys take Stevie Johnson??

Royster with some hellish running.

the field is green mostly

Yep

It’s time to sign matt flynn and pick up playmakers in the draft.

Nobody in the league can move the ball like the Skins

from their own 20 to mid-field

We sign Flynn for a 1yr deal, draft a bunch of playmakers like kurstack said, and then draft Barkley next yr

And why would Flynn sign a 1 year deal?

Because we want him to?

tee hee

Do prevent the risk of a long term deal such as

him not playing as to how we envision him. Plus if we can land a good qb next yr then why do we neeed flynn

to*

Whoosh

did you mean whoomp?

Once again... why would FLYNN sign a 1 year deal?

Both parties have to agree

That makes sense for us

But why would that make sense for him? Especially when there’ll more than likely be some other team offering him a multi-year deal.

“Thanks for the offer Mike Holmgren. a 4 year 35 mil contract is tempting, but frankly I’d rather play for the Redskins for this 1 year, $4 million deal Dan Snyder is offering me”

Especially considering how awesomely awesome the Redskins have been at winning over the years

Why the hell would Flynn sign a 1 year deal?

Mr.Snyder

could work something out

right... way to learn the past 12 year

Why would Flynn sign a 1 year deal?

Hey at least Rex held on to the ball

Sanchez is super horrible.....glad we didn't get that prick

oh for fuck's sake

Hell No

We need a QB this year god help us if we got Rex next year.

Matt Flynn

Will be your QB next year. He’ll probably sign a contract comparable to Kolb’s.

Flynn and Jonathan Martin > RG3

or flynn and decastro would be nice too

+1

I guess nothing left but to root for the Bucs and Browns

I am ready for the off-season Kool-Aid

WestCoastHokie - January 1, 2012 via mobile reply

how long till jim caldwell gets fired?

before the end of the day? monday?

Vick got Rexed

Ok Oshiomogho you can come back.

Juice on the loose

what horrible football

yea it's all brown and stuff

What do they call it when you troll your own blog?

Finally got our turnover

Now let’s turn it into points.

Second turnover

Ah yep, you're right

This is the only time I wish for that banned name!

If we had a certain GM and I won’t say his name we would get Luck or RGIII!

How?

We wouldn’t have any picks to trade up with.

Knowing that person he would give up 5 years of picks for Luck and 4 years for RGIII

And having no draft picks for 4 or 5 years helps this depth/talent-depleted team out in what way?

Yea he really reached out for a bunch of franchise QBs in the past

"And from the sideline they'll ask Michael Vick, 'What did you see to make you make a throw like that?'"

And Rex Grossman will answer, “You mean we’re supposed to look first?”

genuinely laughed out loud there

Lol+100000

-1 Lol

you let me don Nitecrawler

don?

Put down the adult beverages.

Thats the only way you can watch Sexy Rexy at QB

terpsallday - January 1, 2012 reply

New Year not hung over! Was the DD last nite.

I know Parks man I’m tired of going to work every morning and being the laughing stock of the office. I got so much Redskins stuff at my desk it sad and I can’t say a word.

Never thought I'd say this

but let Rex go deep.

Snap the ball

NO

Like I said

Fuck

I am the Walrus

1) Colts, 2) Rams official

So Luck #1 and Kalil #2

do you think the will play the game of trading the pick with everybody or set the decision in stone?

Goddammit

LISTEN TO ME!!!!

You need to be louder.

Apparently

Caps Lock, then Underline.

They will definately hear you then.

woogiebear - January 1, 2012 reply

and bold type

Add in another exclamation mark just to be sure

Oh, so

Its the UNDERLINE that gets thru to the headsets. Got it.

I thought the ground couldn't create incompletions

Haha

lol

Yes I lol’s Parks. Suck it.

you're a girl

You can do that

Tee Hee

+1

girls can't say "suck it" though

I strongly disagree with this

Yet I just did.

And actually do quite a lot in my real life.

god bless you

Well that's kind of sexist to you guys.

She said sex...Tee Hee

Forum rules, not mine

Shanny is the worst challenger ever

and we lose the challenge

who the fuck is advising shanahan on these challenges?

Danny Smith, Brandon Banks, and a Bingo caller

may they all be kicked in the testicles repeatedly

DHall

he swears it wasn’t a catch

The Zornado

A timeout we WILL need is gone.

Did you not see the first half

We don’t need no stink’n time outs

I doubt were going to need that timeout... Its over

Does anyone remember the seven American Indians protesting superbowl 26?

Did they put a hex on our team? we really have sucked ever since. Nothing has gone right.

damn still 7 minutes left

Sorry if this has been covered already but,

I just got home from work to this typical reskins showing and heard Orakpo is injured and out of the game. What happened and is it serious?

it's gonna end his season

Good one!

Seriously though, is he ok? Anybody else besides 64JackAss have info for me?

Shoulder injury...no more news at this time.

You spelled ShagginWagon wrong

Must be autocorrect

Tee Hee Hee Hee

Well I guess its Tebow time.

Damn Reed

Please stop the ankle tackling

def not an ankle tackle from Atogwe

Parks, any movement of our draft position

Or are we waiting for the 4pm games to determine?

mbedner - January 1, 2012 via mobile reply

Good thing I'm drinking now.

suck it!!!

Tee Hee

+1

sorry, just wanted to say that again

YAY

i have to continue to listen to fuckin’ Eagle idiots now

ask them about the lombardi's. works for me.

yeah on another board whenever shit is talked to me i just repost the pic that Parks or Tiller put up the other day

No Iggles fan

I know has anything to say. They’ve been beyond a joke this year.

Game Over?

Game over.

Not for 6 more minutes

You forgot the 2nd INT Rexy hasn't thrown.

holy shit

We have 6 more minutes of this?

Fuck the Eagles.

Seriously, fuck those guys. and fuck us for letting a division full of dirtbags & assholes push us around all the time.

they are always going to be the losers of our division. Every one needs one.

Cowboy 5
Redskins 3
Giants 3 (19 extra years)
feables 0

Giants had 19 extra years in the SB era??

Steve Shoup - January 1, 2012 reply

Wow, that's impressive

it took 19 extra years to tie the Skins at 3 rings

Zorn>Shanny

please hand over your redskins fan card now

hahahaha

i'm kidding.

But he does have a better record.

sadly.

That's it. Some one take his keys

Honestly I was kidding.

Get the fuck out of here

ooh... you sure are angry.

She's been drinking

Reminds me of Grandma

it's called 'glowing'

Your grandma and I should hang out.

It's my irishness

we cuss a lot.

Depressing thing

is that these last two games the defense has not played well

Time for one more Grossman pick

This blows...

What are the chances that I could get on the practice squad next year? Couldn’t hurt them any worse, could it?

woogiebear - January 1, 2012 reply

Jax 19 Colts 13 Final

We move to 6th pick now?

Two more victories to go. Cleveland and Tampa.

Copious 1 - January 1, 2012 via Android app reply

That series was depressing

What will be this year reasons?

This is going to be the most talked about off season. I think we will have some heated conversation this off season.

This is going to be a franchise defining offseason

Too bad the colts didn’t win. This could have been an extremely interest offseason if the rams held the first overall pick.

mbedner - January 1, 2012 via mobile reply

Think it may be pretty smooth.

As long as a Rex is no longer the QB and we get some oline.

Copious 1 - January 1, 2012 via Android app reply

this game is proof why we need an entire new O-Line

Steve Shoup - January 1, 2012 reply

NO STEVE, we need to sign DeSean Jackson!

and qb, cb, more more more

bingo

and the secondary is a bigger problem than I thought

Skins are either going to draft 4th, 5th, or 6th. Totally in the hands of Cleveland and Tampa now

Rex Grossman

Pro bowler?

You mean

pro BOWLER? Maybe.

i mean I am glad this is the last game

he's got nothing on Munson or Big Ern McKraken

Haha gotta love Charles Davis backpeddling about sexy Rexy

Doughty just laid out their FB.

offense & QB play like this should only further illustrate the point

that Gary Kubiak was the REAL genius all those years… NOT M. Shanahan @ Denver, NOT Kyle Shanahan @ HOuston.
HOuston scores w/ their 9th string qb to tie the game….

Wow that's guts

they are also limping into the playoffs

they are goiung nowhere

I wish we were limping into the playoffs

their 3rd string qb was able to put up numbers... straight out of college (QB evaluator)

also, I’m still furious w/ Kyle, he KNEW what Arian Foster had on the practice squad for them… let us sign all sorts of Willie Parkers & shit, and that kid was on the practice squad. And Ben Tate. Hell, everybody they put into that offense, which is supposed to be the same deal we run here

false

No talent here. Only problem

Copious 1 - January 1, 2012 via Android app reply

We had talent here just mistakes were made in our front office.

What talent?

Our ground crew ROCKS

Did you see the field last week?

Crap

there goes the talent

We gave up picks for mcscabb and Brown.

So McNabb and Brown are the talent?

We had talent.

Now we can have a debate if that what you want. Jim Zorn had his legs taken from under him and Greg Williams was f@ck out of a job. Now if you say Jim is better then Greg then you need to be tested. We changed our how defense for a 3-4. You gave up Campbell for what nothing. The only thing that was done right was that we got rid of fat Albert and drafted after getting it right. Now after next years draft if we still at the bottom of the east then it’s time for mike sir or jr to go.

correction...

they went for 2 & bollocksed it all up… so Not tied.

Officially a blow out.

Wow just kind of gave up huh?

i don't care what the recievers say rex is a big part of the letdown

defense is on the field ALL the time

Wow Flynn could be the real deal

admit I was wrong

You should def judge a guy on one game

When was the last time

A redskin QB threw for 400 yards and 5 TDs?

I think he should

Be put in the pro bowl

HA

Grossman 16 TDs in 16 games. Flynn 5 TDs in 1 game. Hmmmm

ok that was not an intelligent comment

rethink how many games Rex played…

if intelligence is required for posts, i'm outta here

Sorry

LOL – I think you get the point anyway

haha naw it's all good

I was just sayin’

In all fairness

we knew Beck blew chunks after only 1 game

I knew BEFORE one game

You can see into the future?

He's got a Delorean, lucky bastard

No I look at his past

But that would be alot cooler if I could

The past doesn't always determine the future though

In this case though, yes.

Watched the guy all through college

No one in Utah could believe the guy got drafted in the second round

You use an entire game?

I like basing my judgements on the first half.

oh, a sleezy little comment from Parks...shocking

1 more NFL game

Than any of the college QBs being hyped in the draft…

actually I believe this is 2nd start

Let's go Cleveland and Tampa Bay!!!!!!!

well, that sucked

peppermartin - January 1, 2012 reply

That pretty much sums up this season

I hate to say it, but I will anyways.

We may be 3 more years away from putting forth a competitive team. Whoever we bring in to play QB is going to need to learn a new system. We still need more o-line pieces, and they need time to gel. Our secondary needs to be overhauled. And depth is needed at safety, o-line, d-line, CB, and linebacker.

we need a new trainer

I’m sick of people not being healthy around here. not even the freak accidents – knees & what have you, we consistently have hamstring, ankle, hip injuries that cost guys entire seasons. what kind of rehab or conditioning are we doing?

this would have sounded crazy 2-3 yrs ago

but I wish we were as good as Detroit or Oakland

royster running for all those yards just shows how bad the qb position is killing us

I'm out

we’ll talk some Bowl game prospects & stuff in a few days, Happy New Year to you all

Just tweeted by Darrel Green...

Darrell Green
I am starting to change my mind about not wanting to coach the Redskins secondary. Maybe i could help coach Shanahan bring a winner back to the Burgundy & Gold.

He needs not to tease us.

Yikes

Another tweet by Green...

darrellgreen28 Darrell Green
I am not sure how to go about it, but we will see.

Switching to the Green Bay game to watch our future starting QB

Anyone gonna put up

A game thread tonight?

Yep

As a reminder, another game thread will be posted for the Cowgirls vs Midgets game at 7pm.

Must've missed that

I never won awards for paying attention.

ok fire up the jet danny!!!

wish list

carl nicks
matt flynn
dwayne bowe
multiple oline picks
developmental qb
cb
rb

A merciful end to this sad season

As the Skins walked the green mile at last.

Sucks having this feeling every year

Flashes of potential, disastrous endings. Sadly I feel no matter who we draft or sign next year it’s still gonna be the same old same old. It’s the Redskin way since 1992 . Hope for the best, definitely prepared for the worst. I don’t no why we do it to ourselves, knowing inevitably heartache looms at the end of ever season for us fans. I will say one thing though, the redskins fans – true fans – show an incredible resiliency to hold on and say " maybe next year." Its been a pleasure chatting with you all this season, here’s to a great draft, solid free agent acquisitions and the continued belief in the system by the players(and fans). Happy new year to you all, and as always…Hail!!(begrudgingly). Maybe next year…..

Let the Offseason begin

it’s always our best season of the year

Damn we coulda had Ray Rice

I’d take hm over Thomas/Kelly/Davis combined.

We could've had Tom Brady

We could've had Jim Harbaugh as a coach

Ok, but

It was stupid to pick those three guys over Rice. Brady was a lottery ticket

I was just thinking...

There’s are all kinds of players on teams I wild love to have as a redskin. As good as maybe orakpo is, Kerrigan will be, and maybe landry/ hall if you’re a moron, there really are no redskins that fans of every other team sit around and say " MAN I’d love to have that guy on my team!". It’s really disappointing.

Haven't had that player

Since Sean Taylor. Although smart fans of teams outside of Baltimore and SanFran would say that of Fletcher.

Sure there is...

1. Orakpo
2. Kerrigan
3. Williams
4. Davis
5. Fletcher

Sorry to say

But you’re wrong. We had no Pro Bowlers for a reason. Our players aren’t as talented as the other teams.
Again, I’ll give you Fletcher. Rak needs work, and RyKer needs time. Williams and Davis? Not hardly. Neither of them would even start for another team in our DIVISION.

I call bullshit on that. Davis was a top 10 TE this season before he was suspended and Trent is a young, talented OT. Plenty of teams would take these two in a heart beat.

Agree to disagree

Look around the league. Playmaking tight ends are a dime a dozen these days. TW definitely has potential, but I think the inference was that we don’t have any players most everyone COVETS. There’s a difference between thinking a player is nice, or COULD BE nice, and coveting a player.

Agree to Disagree

However, sometimes it seems like what we have is no good because we aren’t winning. Take a look at the players who have left our team and have had big success elsewhere, most recently being Carlos Rogers and Andre Carter.

Carter didn't fit

He’s’ playing the same as he did when he was here. (at least, before he got hurt). And he woulda been obsolete with Kerrigan here. Rogers is playing the same too, except for the interceptions, which seem to be held by the contacts. But he was our best cover corner here. It was always said that if he caught half of the balls that hit his hands, he’d be in the Pro Bowl. Now it’s proven.

Anyway, back to Davis and Williams. Putting aside the stupidity, they are both inconsistent as hell. Davis disappears for games at a time, and still can’t block. There are easily ten tight ends in the league I’d take over him. Maybe twelve. And at least that many left tackles I’d take over TW. Sorry to say.

Which is what I am saying.

It is all about perception. Rogers and Carter are Pro Bowl players when they weren’t here. Why? Because they are on winning teams. Winning teams gain notoriety. I would hate to see Landry leave this team because chances are, he is going to be a stud, especially if he goes to a good team.

Look at the 49ers. They are having an amazing year and are sending 8 to the Pro Bowl. Nobody would have guessed that they would have 8 Pro Bowlers at the beginning of the season. The reason for this is that they are winning. If we were going to the Playoffs, our players would be perceived completely differently. Not all, but some.

The grass is always greener on the other side. On our side, the grass is pretty much dirt. Everyone, except for Fletcher, can be and probably has been a scapegoat at some point this year. Because we are losing, nobody notices what we do have. Plus, we are a very young team and the roster has been turned over quite a bit these past couple of years. Consistency can help cure some of the problems. Players need to be able to depend on each other. Once this team gels, more depth is added, and we get a quarterback that doesn’t turn the ball over 2-3 times per game, I think the talent on this team will look a lot different.

I understand what you are saying, however. When you look at all the players that are contributing to winning teams, it gets depressing.

I completely agree

With everything you said there. I just don’t think it holds any bearing on this discussion. Rogers and Carter are going to the Pro Bowl, yes. But they don’t really fall into the category I’m talking about anyway. I’m not talking about fringe pro bowlers. I’m talking about the best of the best. All Pro’s. Orakpo is a very good player, but he’s no DeMarcus Ware, or even Terrell Suggs. Same with RyKer (for now, at least). Davis? Not even close to one of the top tight ends in the league. Williams – same thing. And so on…

Got ya.

You are talking best of the best. Although I might put Fletcher in that category. He’s not flashy, but he has been one of the most productive middle linebackers in the league, consistently. Other than him, I think our last one was Champ Bailey. Sean Taylor had potential, but never quite got there.

As far as acquiring elite talent, we have been handicapped for years by trading away draft picks for has-been elite talent. I still think that there is potential on this team for some elite talent to emerge, but it will require winning.

We need leaders on this team that are hard workers, not leaders who are outspoken; and these are the guys that need to be captains of this team. I’m talking about Lorenzo Alexander, Adam Carriker, Fletcher (obviously), Kerrigan, and Orakpo. Gee, come to think of it, I can’t think of one offensive player that fits in this category; perhaps Cooley.

Sorry, I know I went off subject there and I will stop now. I agree that we have no current elite talent on this team; although I still say that winning helps create this as well. Look at Welker. If he were on this team, would he be considered an elite receiver?

~~Wild~~ would

We need new uniforms.

Burgundy and Black

To go with a new attitude.

where is our uniform guy

we could mock up some cool uniforms

I'd rather not

Give them more things to think about.

Still want em?

mbedner - January 1, 2012 reply

ABsolutely. I love that. Would change it to black pants with burgondy stripes though.

And black in the helmet.

You have no eye or fashion

That looks terrible. Stick with burgundy and gold.

mbedner - January 1, 2012 reply

Yeah, I'm definitely no fashion guru...but I still like it. I think it looks slick.

Love it

I love it

but only if the team is badass enough to wear it.

Seems our D kind of quit after Rak went down

I think Snyder

should buy the Saints and move them to Washington. Enough with all the rebuilds.

or...OR

Howabout Snyder moves to New Orleans, sells the team to Ozzie Newsome

I'd be happy if Snyder moved to NO.

then the team can stay.

Russellmania980 Chris Russell
Shanny says “Rex played a heck of a game” says “Houdini” couldn’t have made some of those throws. #Redskins

Christ

I would expect not

Houdini, from what I understand, had a bit of a noodle arm…

mbedner - January 1, 2012 reply

Maybe Grossman can do a little magic

and disappear

Next years Redskins and their new qb

If only

Flynn just set a Packers passing record.

6 fucking td's

matt flynn is puttin on a clinic

maybe the packers will see that flynn is better than rodgers and give him to us he he

I'm OK with that.

Matt Flynn is better than Aaron Rodger

Haha

Are you craving Cheetos?

Nearly 500 passing yards and 6 TDs

Flynn looked accurate and threw amazing deep balls. Set all-time green bay single game passing record. Nice audition for him today.