This week's segment of the Hogs Haven round table had us all discussing one of our two rookie running backs, sixth rounder Evan Royster. Royster was promoted from the practice squad and was given his first career carry against the Seahawks in week 12. He saw his first start after injuries slowed down fellow rookie running back Roy Helu in week 16 against the Giants where he took 19 rushes for 132 yards. He followed that up with 20 rushes for 113 yards against the Eagles in week 17.
Steve: Royster went from being that guy on the practice squad, to a really solid runner for the Redskins. Now you can debate whether Ryan Torain ever deserved a roster spot over Royster, but any way you cut it Royster was impressive for a 6th rounder with limited opportunities. Now Royster will never be the type of guy who breaks big play after big play, but he runs so well, that he gets the most out of ever opportunity.
I know I could get some flak for rating Royster with an 'A' grade in running ability, but I think a case can be made. Royster despite having a 100 less carries managed half of the 20+ yard runs as fellow rookie Roy Helu (two for Royster, four for Helu). Royster also managed an impressive 5.9 yards per carry. While that number is unsustainable, it does show some nice potential for Royster going forward. Another thing that was striking to me, was the fact that Royster managed a 1st down on 33% of his touches (both running and receiving), where as Helu (21%) and Hightower (20%) were well behind that mark.Royster's late season emergence means that the Redskins RB need is now well on the back burner. Helu will still go into the year as the starter, but I fully expect Royster to play a significant role next season. If he keeps playing at this level he could well end up as a starter down the line. For now though the Redskins should be happy if he remains a significant contributor.2012 Stat Prediction: (Note: I'm expecting the Redskins will run a lot more next year) 160 carries for 750 yards (about 4.7ypc) 4 TD's, 20 receptions for 160 yards 1 TD

Ronnie: When looking at the 53-man roster at the beginning of the regular season, I happened to notice they had placed Royster on the practice squad. All I can remember was using so many curse words in one sentence that a sailor would have covered his ears. I knew we had Hightower in the shoot, and Torain was there who has had some success in the past, but watching Royster run against Tampa (pre-season) was like watching a raw diamond being pulled out of a mine. Just a little polishing here and there, and you've got yourself a great looking stone.
Royster's ability in the backfield is going to be relied on heavily in 2012, probably even more-so than Helu's. In Royster's short time playing, he massed a 5.9-yard average on the ground, and 7.6 in the air (These numbers, especially the ground averagen will change. It's still awesome to see that kind of production out of a Washington back). There were a few times that I noticed him overlooking an assignment for a block. Those were on disguised blitzes, though. Something Bobby Turner will definitely beat out of him during camp. I look forward to a running game next season with Royster and Helu. I really do think Royster will win the starting spot for 2012.2012 Stat Prediction: 170 carries for 825 yards with seven 20+ yarders and 7 TD's (Go big or go home), and 25 receptions for 175 yards with a TD.
Kevin: Royster certainly got forgotten in the RB shuffle with all the hype Hightower, Torain and Helu received in the early part of the 2010 season. Some interesting notes from Royster's senior year at PSU: "Penn State began the season with three new offensive linemen and four different starting O-Line units in the first six games...he still had six 100+ yard games for the year." Penn State was 12-0 when Royster had 100+ yards over his 4 years. Can Royster be that guy that simply advances the ball for the Skins?
Sure, Royster does not have breakaway speed, but neither did Emmitt Smith who ran a 4.8 in his combine 40. Am I comparing Royster to Smith, absolutely (not), but if Royster can learn to block, he'll become a great change of pace back for this Redskins offense. The guy just get yards, as Steve Shoup wrote about after Royster's first game.
2012 Stat Prediction: It's hard to imagine Royster will break the top 2 RBs in 2012, especially since they'll likely draft another one mid-round, which puts him in a backup role at best. I think he sees the same type of numbers as last year: 50 attempts, 350 yards, 1 TD.
Parks: It's hard for me to get excited about Mike Shanahan runningback, they seem to be a dime a dozen and just a cog in the machine for Shanny. I don't want to inflate the value of the rookies, like I feel some fans are already doing with the young crop. We could sit here and go through the historical list of the Shanny RB carousel, but we all know the stories of success with many guys we have never previously heard of. With that being said I think we do have a good running back rotation and three backs that can complement each other. But at the same time all our running backs have lacked durability and the notion of the "feature back" needs to be thrown out. For the Redskins running game to be successful they need to stick to a rotation of Royster, Helu, and Hightower. But it doesn't stop there, Kyle Shanahan has already stated that if Hightower re-signs then the Redskins will actively seek out a fourth running back to the group (likely through the draft), and that's a move I fully endorse.
So, in short, Royster was a pleasant surprise, but I'm not going to get to excited about his individual output. We've similar performances by guys like Ryan Torain, the key is long term sustainability. Royster needs to improve his pass protection and also work on his ability to maintain his balance when he gets into the secondary. There is no way he be the guy, but rather one of the guys; and if he wants to be a successful member of this foursome then he needs to be ready when called upon and work on his big play capabilities.
2012 Stat Prediction: 85 carries, 325 yards, 2 TDs, 20 receptions, 125 yards
Tiller: Evan Royster is a natural fit for a zone blocking offense. He is best when asked to make one cut, and go. Although Royster does not have that great burst and long speed you would like to see in a running back, he possesses great vision and patience, which are huge attributes in Shanahan's offense. He runs with good balance and body lean, rarely losing yardage on plays. He is a good receiver out of the backfield, as was evident during his time at Penn State. He would often be asked to line up in the slot, or even split out as a wide receiver opposite the strength of the formation, where he was used in one-on-one match-ups against linebackers and safeties. He has naturally soft hands and catches the ball away from his body. His weakness is pass blocking. He is more than capable, but he needs to learn blitz pick up and stunt recognition, if he is to take that next step.
2012 Stat Prediction: My guess is Royster will serve as our third down back and may see action as a spot-starter if injury occurs to Helu or Hightower(if he returns). If Hightower does not return, this could significantly increase Roysters role. I predict 300-400 yards rushing and 3 touchdowns, and 20-25 receptions for 250 yards and one touchdown.
UkRedskin: My initial impressions after pre-season was that he wouldn't make the team or have much of an impact. I didn't see anything special. But luckily for the Redskins I don't work for them. He made the practice squad and was called up due to injuries. I still wasn't expecting much from him when he was given the starting position after Helu got injured. But he proved me wrong. He worked brilliantly at the end of the season out of the "20 personnel" package that saw him line up alongside Darrel Young in the backfield with no tight ends. They forced defenses to go man-to-man on our offensive line and young. We blocked well and Royster cut back well almost every time. He was a better pass-protector than Helu, which is a huge positive, but needs to continue to work on it. The other thing that impressed me was his ability to keep his legs going despite tackle attempts from defenders. Little things like that will give him a chance to get yards after contact and keep him on the team challenging for more carries.
2012 Stat Prediction: He ended the year on a pretty lofty average which will be very hard for him to maintain. But if he can keep it above four, it would be a significant contribution. I think he would get around 350-400 yards and maybe 5 touchdowns.
Ken: He came in and got yards for us when we had nobody else. That story is not new for a team that has been playing for nothing in December for a while now. I am not convinced Evan can be the number one guy for 16 games, but it would seem he is capable of providing quality depth. We need it.
2012 Stat Prediction: 90 carries, 450 yards, 3 touchdowns.
Hogs Haven Grade:
Running Ability: B+
Pass Protection: C
Catching Ability: B
Overall: B-
Thanks as always to Ken, Kevin, Parks, Ronnie, Steve and Tiller for their contributions.
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I like royster, but I think Parks makes a good point as not to get too enamored with any one RB
I like the idea of a three-headed monster at RB with Hightower, Helu, and Royster…Hightower seems like our utility back, good or good enough at everything….I can see Royster making a lot of 15-20 yard runs (great vision), and Helu is that home run threat that can take it to the house…either way a bright future for us at RB
atark001 - January 13, 2012
well said, +1
Parks Smith - January 13, 2012
I like the way the giants did it a few years ago with bradshaw, ward, and jacobs
we could pound the opposing defense in the first half with hightower and royster, and then unleash helu more in the second half as the defense gets tired
atark001 - January 13, 2012
Like I said, the days of the feature back is dead. Or at least on vacation.
Parks Smith - January 13, 2012
I tend to agree with your comments in the introduction.
“It’s hard for me to get excited about Mike Shanahan runningback, they seem to be a dime a dozen and just a cog in the machine for Shanny.” For some reason Torain was able to do well with the outside stretch plays in the 2010 season, but only ran well against the Rams in 2011. Helu and Hightower both did well in the preseason and got the fans excited about the Skins running game. It did not materialize. A lot of runners manage to get low and gain a few more yards (This works for Helu and Royster). The pitch rather than direct handoff also works for these guys, but opponents can adjust to such play and it can result in fumbles. The pitch also seemed to find bigger holes and prevented earlier LB adjustments. It was only in the last three games when the Skins implemented that move. After Litchensteiger’s injury the running game shutdown to the outside for awhile. Defenses made some adjustments early on.
Jefferson1935 - January 13, 2012
Can someone do me a favor one day?
When all of these roundtable predictions are done could someone add up all the stats and tally up the combined team statistics. I think the Skins are on pace for 6500 yard passing, 4200 yards rushing and 120 TDs at this point. Pretty hard to see how we don’t go 16 and 0 next year based on these numbers.
Jeff Bernard - January 13, 2012
I nominate you.
To be fair, my two predictions have us 675 yards
Parks Smith - January 13, 2012
Your predictions are always the lowest
Jeff Bernard - January 13, 2012
What can I say, I have high hopes
Parks Smith - January 13, 2012
my predictions
Att Yds Avg
Helu 225 990 4.4
Royster 125 513 4.1
Hightower 45 167 3.7
Redskin44 - January 13, 2012
Are you predicting Hightower will not be healthy
or are you thinking he gets passed on the depth chart?
Tiller56 - January 13, 2012
I think he will be passed
On the depth chart. Probably will split some time as the 3rd down back
Redskin44 - January 14, 2012
Haha
I was thnking the same thing. If ROYSTER is getting 700-some yards, what are Helu and Hightower getting? I mean, we should easily break the record for team rushing yards in a season, whatever it is.
CJHutch - January 13, 2012
I think it is very possible that Royster gets about 40 % of our carries
I think he will be the primary backup to Helu, and given RB injuries he could get a few starts.
Steve Shoup - January 13, 2012
we've only done two offensive players so far
and i think for the most part they are pretty fair.
Steve Shoup - January 13, 2012
I told you in the Hankerson post that yall were taking crazy pills.
Parks Smith - January 13, 2012
i smell trade bait on royster
i think we can get a good draft pick or a good player if he has a few more good games
munson21502 - January 13, 2012
Why would we want to trade him at this point?
Right now we have 2 healthy backs on the roster. There is no guarantee Hightower will bounce back, so we are really IN NEED of a RB, rather than rich at the position.
StephanHart - January 13, 2012
also it is possible that Royster ends up being the better of the two backs
Steve Shoup - January 13, 2012
Exactly, but either way, the two in tandem look solid, so i don't understand people advocating a trade
StephanHart - January 13, 2012
me neither
i do think we need to add a different type of back, but I really like Helu and Royster right now.
Steve Shoup - January 13, 2012
Perhaps in nex year's draft we can target a game breaker ala McCoy from the Eagles
StephanHart - January 13, 2012
we got 1 but little shanahan wont use him that much
i seen wr screens to stallworth, hank, niles,moss, and gaffney but not many to banks??? he did have a few trick plays where he ran for 2 scores and threw for 1. but 2 of them got called back. not sure why banks isnt in more at WR. so what if he gets hurt…at least give him a chance to break some or cause the defense to change things up to free up others.
munson21502 - January 14, 2012
Evan Royster might be the most durable of our current running backs
And given that Mike Shanahan tends to stay with the hot hand, Royster will get his chance to prove himself durable and productive.
The fact that Kyle Shanahan has stated they’ll be looking for another running back in the off-season means that somebody on the roster currently will not be at the start of the season… my guess is Helu
Skins Fan '77 - January 13, 2012
No chance Helu is the odd man out
I would otherwise never be so sure about something in January, but Helu showed the coaches a lot this year. If he gets cut to make room for anyone else, I would be floored.
I am not suggesting he is going to be an All-Pro, but I do think he will be featured more on passing downs next year and I see him getting better overall between now and next fall.
Ken Meringolo - January 13, 2012
I know, I could hardly believe I wrote that
But the specter of fragility is lurking, and that just will not fly with this team. I’m not ruling out in spending time on the injured reserve list next year either.
I just can’t see the Redskins going into next season with four running backs and I cannot see them carrying all rookies or one year players at that position… somebody is going to be gone I think
Skins Fan '77 - January 13, 2012
Well, Kyle said they were
Parks Smith - January 13, 2012
They don't add a 4th RB
Either planting the seed that they might choose Richardson in the draft for teams looking to trade up or lowering Hightowers price tag even farther than his injury took him?
Bryan Black - January 13, 2012 via Android app
Given
all the injuries we have had at RB over the last few years, it would be smart to carry 4
Redskin44 - January 13, 2012
The Redskins would be much better served carrying 4 back than extra WR's
Hightower is an unknown, and RB’s in general get banged up.
Steve Shoup - January 13, 2012
How is the most durable?
He started two games and didn’t even make it through both of them.
Parks Smith - January 13, 2012
MIGHT be…
None of our current running backs (or recent past backs) have proven to be durable. Royster has the size and solidness to be durable.
Roy Helu is by far more talented, but I worry about the nature of his injuries so far.
Kyle said he was going to bring in a fourth running back, that does not mean they will keep for on the roster… and giving their history of carrying 33 wide receivers, I don’t see how there is room for four running backs.
Skins Fan '77 - January 13, 2012
Royster was very durable at PSU
and he played through many nagging injuries. His durability, not his game changing ability, was what helped him to become the All_time leading rusher at PSU.
He can definitly play through minor bumps.
Tiller56 - January 13, 2012
Thank you,
That is twice now that we have agreed on something–must be the new year
Skins Fan '77 - January 13, 2012
I think we agree on a lot more than you give us credit for
Tiller56 - January 13, 2012
Im sorry
but you think we will not keep Helu?
Redskin44 - January 13, 2012
Call it a bold prediction
But I do not believe it enough to bet anything on my statement. I just don’t see us going with four running backs next year and I think they need to bring in someone who can block.
It could be (free agent running back who can pass block), Roy Helu, and Evan Royster.
Skins Fan '77 - January 13, 2012
Once again, why would we get rid of either of these Backs?
If they are both productive next year, we are getting max value for them as 4th and 6th round draft picks respectively. With Hightower’s injury, we are not set with 3 backs….so why would you get rid of any of them?
StephanHart - January 13, 2012
Injury, not by choice
Skins Fan '77 - January 13, 2012
I see, but you're not avocating trading Helu or Royster are you?
StephanHart - January 13, 2012
No, I very rarely advocate trading a player
Skins Fan '77 - January 13, 2012
I think tiller said it
That royster always falls forward gaining yards.. did ha have a negative carry this year? I think he will be a good backup with maybe a start here and their. 150 carries and 600 yards with 3 TDs next year. by the way I was actually more optimistic about royster as our draft pick over helu. I’m glad we have non though!
the maroon bird - January 13, 2012 via mobile
Both not non..
the maroon bird - January 13, 2012 via mobile
I could see Shanny trying to build up Royster’s stock (which he actually has already done somewhat) and then trading him. I caution myself getting attached to any runningback with Mike as the guy in charge of the team. That being said, IF Evan is on the roster (he could be very valuable trade bait THIS year), I could see him getting somewhere around the 300-400 yard mark with 3-5 TD’s.
HTTR4LIFE - January 13, 2012
To give you a little PSU perspective on Royster:
A lot of fans were upset when they learned Royster was returning for his senior season. Most thought he just came back so he could break the all-time Penn State rushing record(which I believe was partially true). When Evan came into summer ball, he was fat. He had added 15 lbs to his frame, and it was not good weight. He didn’t look good early on in his senior year, and was easily outplayed by true freshmen Silas Redd.
When I think of the best RB’s at PSU, I think of Carter, Warner, Thomas, Enis, and Dozier, not Evan Royster. He’s hoping he has a better NFL career than some I just mentioned.
Tiller56 - January 13, 2012
He went to Pittsburgh State?
Parks Smith - January 13, 2012
God, I never stopped
To think about what god awful runningbacks come outta Penn State. Where’s LJ though?
CJHutch - January 13, 2012
Yeah
PSU running backs and the NFL don’t get along. Carter’s situation was the worst IMO. Such wasted talent.
Tiller56 - January 13, 2012
PS you forgot Franco
Redskin44 - January 13, 2012
and Suhey!
would you take his as a an UDFA to back up young?
Redskin44 - January 13, 2012
*take his son
Redskin44 - January 13, 2012
He doesn't have the ideal bulk to play FB in the NFL
IMO, he’s a little soft. I like Zordich much better.
Tiller56 - January 13, 2012
before my time
but yes, I did forget him, and Mitchell, Capp, LJ and many more.
Tiller56 - January 13, 2012
LJ was before your time?
CJHutch - January 14, 2012
Helu Camp
Lardarius Webb of the Baltimore Ravens and Roy Helu of the Washington Redskins will be holding their annual, 4 day 3 night, football camp from June 29-July 2 at McDaniel College, Westminster, MD. Go to www.footballcamps.com
SI FOOTBALL CAMPS - January 13, 2012
I can see adding a scat back type
I read that we could add Rainey in the later rounds of the draft and possibly stash him on the practice squad, or even have him replace Banks as the primary return guy. I like us bringing Hightower back but I dont want him to play over the two young horses unless to fill in for injury. I dont want him another Torain situation with Hightower. Overall Im loving the backfield situation, just like the Portis-Betts-Rock days.(Lol Cartwright did his job)
Chillz - January 13, 2012 via mobile
I wonder where that one poster is
who used to be all over Torain’s jock(forgot his name). Haven’t heard much from him lately.
Tiller56 - January 13, 2012
I like rainey or demps in that role
Redskin44 - January 13, 2012
let me get this right....
so you guys are prediciting helu will be gone cause of injuries before hightower?
alleykatt1000 - January 13, 2012
I like the roundtables, keep 'em coming
As for Royster, I’m not sure what to expect from him next year. I feel like he won’t see much opportunities though
travisjh86 - January 13, 2012
good to say that the RB situation is the least of our problems!
alleykatt1000 - January 13, 2012
I think we will go with what we've got at RB now for 2012...
…and Helu will emerge as the primary back, but Hightower (goal-line and 3rd-and-short back) and Royster (change of pace) will see a lot of action. I also expect 90 receptions out of this backfield, which isn’t too much to expect because all 3 of these guys have at least decent hands.
Helu:
212 car, 1,017 yds, 6 tds, 4.8 ypc
44 rec, 316 yds, 1 td, 7.2 ypr
Hightower:
137 car, 534 yds, 8 tds, 3.9 ypc
27 rec., 211 yds, 1 td, 7.8 ypr
Royster:
125 car, 538 yds, 3 tds, 4.3 ypc
19 rec, 151 yds, 0 td, 7.9 ypr
The Agent C 83 - January 13, 2012
Oh...
…and I do believe that the Redskins will run significantly more in 2012, which is why we have all these opportunities available for carries.
The Agent C 83 - January 13, 2012
For the record:
the 19 rushes for 132 yards were against MIN not NY.
adamvolo - January 14, 2012
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