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Carlos Rogers: "So many guys is ready to leave" (the Redskins)

Barry Svrluga, a columnist for the Washington Post, is in San Francisco this week covering the NFC Championship and had a chance to talk to Carlos Rogers. Yep, you know where this is going:

"It's so crazy when you're in an organization, where other coaches and other players see how good you are, see the potential, and your own organization that you've been with for six years don't do the right stuff to get that out of a player," Rogers said. "I've had so many coaches saying: ‘You've had an incredible year. I know you're glad to be out of Washington because there's so much stuff going on.' It was amazing, just the respect factor."

OK, so that's old news. We got that.

"I wanted this in Washington," Rogers said. "I didn't want to be bouncing around from team to team. It didn't work out in Washington. I got another chance, and it's working out."

I do believe that. But this is where the bus goes veering off the road and into a ditch:

"People say I wasn't happy. It's just because I spoke out. But it was the truth. It was the truth. And I'm gone. So what is it now? It's still stuff going on. I know the guys on the team, so many guys is ready to leave. So many guys."

That last comment is a total mind f*ck. All off-season we listen to players and their reasoning why this team's squad will turn it around. "Shanahan brings Super Bowl legacy."..."It's our second year in the system, guys don't have to think as much." On and on. So, who's ready to leave I can't help but turn my attention to. They are surely the players that are suffering through this losing era and not getting paid, right? Rocky McIntosh and DHall come to mind. I could name others, but what good would it do? Carlos is right. No one wants to be part of a team that has had one winning record since 2006.

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What a Freakin Big Mouth

Just Shut Up!

To Carlos Rodgers the Consomate Professional

It is so easy to point the finger at your former team that is rebuilding for the future and will be a true dynasty very soon, but at the same time for you to take cheap shots at them tells us all just what type of person or professional you really are. After all it was you who made up his mind three years ago to collect a big check and do as little as possible to earn it. You are indeed a sooorrry excuse of a player who will not amount to much and never reach the potential you should have. Very cowardly or professional of you Carlos!

Did he attend a college? I need to use this as evidence that when you sound like an uneducted preson anything you say is taken with a grain of salt and the ever craved “respect” will never be given to a mumble mouthed moron.

SEC

Auburn to be specific. Majored in coloring.

If you read into Steinberg's column

Manning will be here soon so that should keep people happy

//shooooooooooooooootttttttttttttttttt mmmmmmmmmmmmmeeeeeeeeeeeee

I did read it and I still don't see Manning coming here.

If anything it would be Bradford or RG3.

both would be awesome. Let’s hope.

You want both?

That would be expensive. Who starts?

I believe Shanahan implements the strategy he used during the preseason for the entire year

One player plays the first quarter, the other plays the next and it continuously repeats.

Makes sense, no?

Bradford?? Hahaha…wouldn’t that be interesting….a native-american QB playing for the Redskins :)

Dude, our first head coach was Native-American

And while I, for one, would love to have Bradford, isn’t there still the rumor that he doesn’t want to play for the Redskins?

Players don’t want to play here?! What has this team come to? The Redskins used to be a premier team and now rookies and dipshits like Rogers are piling on.
I hope the Redskins come back strong next year and make them all eat crow.

I've never once heard a rumor that Bradford doesn't want to play for the Redskins

When asked two years ago, he had no problem and spoke quite highly of Mike Shanahan, actually.

Listening to Jeff Fischer on the radio today....

Bradford isn’t going anywhere

Rams trade back with CLE, get Blackmon, and an additional 1st next year (or 2nd this year).

What if Minnesota gets Blackmon?

it still is a possibility.

Then the Rams would get Kalil, and be set at LT for years
Because coaches never lie.
Right

I never put much weight into that trade. I’ll have to start preparing for it now.

Interesting - them going with RG3 over Bradford seemed reasonable

But if Fisher wants Bradford, end of story.
I just read how the Colts are firing almost everybody. Could preclude Peyton going back there – all his comrades gone. I hope we don’t chase him, but his presence could indirectly help us by going to some competitor for a top QB.

F*** you Carlos

You the dumbass who tried to play DB blind as a bat…what a douche!

No more has-beens from other teams as they plan for the future and ‘Skins plan on being their stepping stones.
Let me add Fuck Carlos and his greased hands that couldn’t make a damn int to save..well, to save the team he was on.

For the record

I really, really, really don’t want Manning (because I believe there is no way Indy lets him go if he is healthy).

I am fine with RG3 or even Bradford.

my guesses:

Mcintosh and Landry

Maybe dhall too

I don’t think Hall has many reasons to be upset. He is considered one of the leaders of this team by the coaching staff. He makes us pay for costly mistakes every single game and doesn’t get a lot of heat for that…Beyond that, he knows he is garbage and doesn’t deserve his fat contract. If he is really unhappy, I say GTFO.

Who the hell iz Carlos be talkin 'bout. Letz look over the list of dem guys dat be ready to leave dis joint.

McIntosh and Landry have to be the only morons he’s talking about. I say good riddance.

The Redskins is dumb.

They don’t know nothin about cornerbacks.

Yea, Landry voiced how pissed he was with the medical staff rushing back and getting him re-hurt. I’ve written him off.

and he didn’t look very happy when the media asked him if he wanted to stay in WSH.

Do the Eagles or Cowboys have enough cap space for Landry? Maybe Jerruh will try to sign him.

Why woul Jerrah sign a guy who can't walk?

It taks a year to rehab from achilles surgery. So far LaRon has refused TWICE to have that surgery and is trying to see if it will heal on it’s own. Next year will be a rerun of the last two seasons where he plays five, six or seven games and gets shut down for the rest of the season. Landry’s big thing is the highlight reel hit and showing off his muscles. If he’s quit the posturing and play within the system he could be a superstar but that’s not what he wants. Too bad. If he’s one of the ones wanting out let him walk. Same with anyone else. Why does anyone want a player here who doesn’t want to be here?

Oh yea, and wagging his finger at a player he tackled after said player gained 11 on a 3rd and 6 - He's great at that
You fergot

lil’ John Beck

We could make fun of Carlos Rogers grammar...

or we could consider that he possibly is a canary in the coal mine…not that there is anything we could do about it either way…

here are a few other names….and I suspect you wouldn’t mind them leaving either, but I suspect Davis and Williams could be on the list…as could Perry Riley

Why would Perry Riley

Want to leave? He’s starting here. Davis, I can see. Good luck though. He screwed his market value up himself. Williams? Again, why? Is it because Shanny makes him work?

Rogers was starting...

so that doesn’t seem to be the key to determining if one wants to stay or leave…

Regarding why would they want to leave…I think the point Rogers was making, that appears to be disregarded, is that players don’t feel as though the can reach their full potential here. I think as professional athletes, they may be aspiring to more than a starting position (and from a financial standpoint, they also likely have bonuses related to performance that they may not have to chance to fulfill).

To each their own, but I suspect the continued high profile success of starters who leave and become more successful starts to build a perception that is tough to break out of and results in having to overpay to attract talent.

I think we're starting to break that stigma.

Adam Carriker, Stephen Bowen, Jabar Gaffney and Barry Cofield all came here and had the best year of their careers.

baby steps...

lets hope so…

many of the rookies are looking good too.

Carlos was probably talking of one or two guys

And we played them fairly early, so he probably doesn’t have much recent stuff. I think his commons are almost meaningless. Carlos is a nice guy, but not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

I meant "comments", not commons
so many guys usually doesn't translate to 2...

but who knows…

Love Carlos's accent. (ha ha) How did he get through High School..

…much less College with his great verbal skillz ?!?!

He is from Augusta and went to Auburn

he’s pretty well spoken, considering

Exactly, he's from the Dirty Dirty
Leave our name outta your mouth Carlos

Move on with your life dude, you were an unprofessional blow hard when you were here. Glad to see nothing has changed. Go ahead and take McIntosh, Landry, Blades, and the rest of the self important rejects with you. Can’t wait until the Giants bust out some double moves on his ass Sunday.

+1 on the double moves.
It's all blabber to the media, nothing to take to heart

I would like him to own his dropped balls and record in Washington before he starts trashing the team.

I want to say so much about this but I'll save it
maybe if he would have gotten his eyes checked a long time ago

he would have gotten the contract he wanted

Fixed

he would have gotten the contract contacts he wanted

Was that his responsiblity

or the teams? I think the team provides all medical/dental/vision care while they are under contract (protecting their investment).

Hmm....we could blame Carlos Rogers
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/post/carlos-rogers-phillip-daniels-and-contact-lenses/2011/11/17/gIQAqyhMVN_blog.html
"It’s something I heard from several sources. The thing is, I mentioned it to several coaches way back. The first few years he was here and he was having trouble catching the ball, I think I mentioned it to Gregg Williams and I mentioned something to the training staff. I was telling them he needed to get his eyes checked, because we had a guy in Seattle named Fred Thomas who had the same situation, missing a lot of balls.

"So I suggested it and everybody just brushed it off, nobody would listen to me. So he goes to the 49ers, they get his eyes checked, and I’m hearing he’s wearing contact lenses, and that’s the reason he’s doing so well. And a lot of people say, well, why do they have to pay for Carlos Rogers to get his eyes checked? And I keep telling them, most guys don’t realize, they don’t believe that something’s wrong with them. They feel like they’re fine, my eyes are just perfect, I’m doing everything else, why would I go get my eyes checked?

Or, a professional football team could include a 2 min eye exam in the training camp opening physical…

I know what I would do if I were spending millions of dollars understanding human nature and the ego of some professional football players, but that is just me…

I've thought that for a long time - that he needed glasses or contacts

one of his missed interceptions was so obvious – his hands totally missed the ball. Why didn’t the Skins get his eyes checked? Why didn’t he?

It might be easy to get the eye exam, but isn’t he an adult? He would know more than anyone else if he can see. Or speak. Or..oh, nevermind.

I don't care about team eye exams

If your job, and your paid millions, is to shut down receivers and get interceptions then its your responsibility to get your own eyes checked. What a freaking tool.

I don't care if you are paid millions to be the team surgeon

it is your responsibility to get your own eyes examined….

or…

If your job, and your paid millions, is to shut down receivers and get interceptions then its your responsibility to get your own hands checked. What a freaking tool.
If your job, and your paid millions, is to shut down receivers and get interceptions then its your responsibility to get tape the games and get your own game film. What a freaking tool.

Let’s eliminate the training staff and have all players self diagnose. Such babies? Jeez…

And people wonder why the Redskins are such a bad organization…I suspect many within actually believe this type of short-sighted thinking.

What an idiots

I’m sure some guys is ready to leave. But those guys is are ones we not care if leave.

Carlos started to become disgruntled when he did not get the recognition that Hall was getting from the

media and coaches. The contract situation came later.
From the perspective of roster turnover, Carlos is out of touch with the Skin’s roster since Shanahan became coach.
O’Halloran’s article which incidentally cover the change in the Skin’s – http://www.csnwashington.com/01/20/12/Comparing-roster-churn-on-Redskins-and-N/landing.html?blockID=634814&feedID=6355
“REDSKINS
Turnover: 38 of 53.
Starters: 13 (plus P Sav Rocca).
Analysis: Of the teams, the Redskins had the most starters not counted among this group because they were on injured reserve or suspended.” Carlos started expressing his sour grapes about in 2009.

Want's OUT

Get him outta HERE……..

Carlos is mad

Because he didn’t get the hype that guys like Springs and Hall got. But who’s fault is that? Springs was the better corner, and Hall actually caught balls thrown to him. Carlos controlled his own destiny. The coaching staff didn’t have some anti-Carlos campaign going, like he would like us to think.

Another day

Another interview with Carlos where he doesn’t admit he couldn’t fucking see while in Washington, and has since got his eyes examined.

I hope Eli lights his ass up this weekend.

He's just telling the thruth

We let so many of our first round draft picks walk out the door, and its just ridiculous. We chose to pay free agents instead of our own players.

We need to retain our talent first and foremost. Then use free agents to build on the solid foundation. But when you have a high turnover of players how can you ever expect consistency.

Please explain this:
We let so many of our first round draft picks walk out the door, and its just ridiculous
My bad I need to rephrase that

I forgot that we don’t really have a history of keeping our first round picks to begin with. (Vinny Cerato didn’t seem to like draft picks)

its better to say that we let too many of our most talented players leave via free agency

Jason Campbell
Carlos Rogers
Ryan Clark
Antonio Pierce
even Chad Rienhart played pretty well this season.

This season it looks like were not going to resign La’ron Landry and possibly Fred Davis.

None of these players listed have been "our most talented players"

And Chad Rienhart was a 4th rounder….

3rd rounder

I didn’t feel like we gave him a fair shot, could of at least been quality depth but with all the coaching turnovers we’ve had I’m not surprised at all he isn’t on this roster anymore

Jason Campbell looks like Tom Brady when you compare him to Rex Grossman

& He was our best QB. , Antonio Pierce was a Pro Bowl Linebacker. Ryan Clark is a solid DB who can play both Safety position at a high level.
That seems like a pretty talented group.

note: just because someone is a 3rd rounder doesn’t mean they cant play well.

They were all solid players

Hopefully Shanny will not make the mistakes of the past

NT Howard Green, too
we didn't draft him?

and we aren’t missing him at all?

So I’m hoping my sarcasm reader is off today

What 1st round picks

Are you talking about? Lavar is the only one I can think of. Unless you count Ramsey and Campbell. To which I reply, so what?

look at my reply to stephanhart
Yeah

Its been well documented that the Snyderrato regime didn’t value its own “homegrown” talent. But you said first rounders. That’s where you threw me.

Now that

I reread your statement, I think maybe I misinterpreted it. I guess you meant the actual first round PICKS. Which, again, was a known fact with Snyderrato

Champ Bailey-why does everyone forget him?
The redskins did not handle the Rogers situation very well

I think we will end up clearing out most of the malcontents this offseason

I don't really sympathize

it’s frustrating that he is playing better for San Fran but I don’t know what we were supposed to do with him. He perpetually underperformed and still acted entitled.

I Disagree

How could they have handled Carlos any better?

He didn’t want to come back, and voiced that opinion during his contract year. I guess they COULD have traded him, but when you have a disgruntled player who is voicing that he would like to leave, it sorta hurts your trade market.

He did not want to come back

Because how his contract was handled in 2009 and 2010, so yes by the time he left year the damage was done. He was also undervalued by the franchise (and the fans). Too many folks focused on his dropped INTS (which was a problem) and not his very good cover skills. I often wonder if his vision problems were discovered by him or by the SF coaches and trainers.

this isnt the first time a CB left the redskins and made the Pro Bowl with the 49ers

anyone remember Walt Harris.

This is starting to look like a trend.

2 a trend doesn’t make

It's pretty simple: The Redskins as a company, is not a good place to work.

It starts at the top and goes down, like any company.

amazing how we lament the total dysfunction and ineptness of Cerrato era

but then turn on players who are actually just confirming from the inside what we all observed from the outside.

No doubt

The Cerrato era was an albatross, no doubt. But Carlos is lumping the current regime in there as well.
And, again, he was initially upset because he felt he didn’t get the respect he deserved. Well, play better, and you’ll get it. He didn’t get benched because he was dropping balls. He got benched because he wasn’t playing good.

+1 very good point
Any place that is losing

is not a great place to work, once we start winning people will have other reasons than money to play for us

And it's not just the football side of the house

I met the Redskins marketing director a couple of years ago. He reported to a guy who reported directly to Snyder. He told me that the environment was hell. He had only been with the team for a year when I met him and he did not think that he could last for another year.

Not at the table Carlos...
I knew I didn't like him...

I didn’t like him where we selected him, didn’t like all his int drops, didn’t like all his complaining…

If he went to a team that sucked, we wouldn’t hear a peep, but now that he is in the championship game, yak yak yak yak yak….

As they say in Broadway, break a leg…

Guys "is" ready to leave..

Guys “are” ready to leave. Good to know Rogers education paid off.

Rogers is not likely to manage his personal finances any better in SF than he did in DC.
The always articuate Los...So what it guys like Rocky, Landry, insert anyother name "is ready to leave"
“People say I wasn’t happy. It’s just because I spoke out. But it was the truth. It was the truth. And I’m gone. So what is it now? It’s still stuff going on. I know the guys on the team, so many guys is ready to leave. So many guys.”
It would help if he could "drop" some names.
Doesn't need to..It's the regular list of malcontents and below average players.

Rocky, Landry, and former players Devin Thomas, Henson, Blades to name a few. F’em all.

Or as my grandfather would call them, "bums."

He also said if he could use one word to describe Coach Harbaugh, it’d be Blue collar…

Rec'd

He’s defnitely not a candiate for MENSA.

maybe it was hyphenated

blue-collar

Maybe he just meant collar and Harbaugh’s into the kinky stuff..

“I just wanna thank San Francisco for recognizing how good I am by signing me to a 1-year deal, after all the other corners were signed and I was the only one left on the market, it showed me they believed in me from the start.”

nicely done again
Best comment yet!
hahahahahahah

it is the best comment, enjoy ur honeymoon rogers

gonna be a long off season for him when the giants whip his team`s ass

the very same team this loser team he left beat twice!

Man! F Carlos Rogers

He teased us when he was here… He spent all his money on bad business decisions and at the Stadium Club. He wanted a payday, he didn’t get it but maybe he does this year. More power to him. Now what he should worry about is how he is going to guard Nicks and Cruz because he damn sure didn’t d’up Colston or on the last Saints possession Graham, that outran him to the end zone.

Yeahhh, so much respect that you got 1 year and $2m on the FA market.

Listen to the man!

Fans need to put down the rose colored glasses

1. This is a data point. From an external party.

2. There were a HECK of a lot of interviewers asking players quesitons in VERY leading manner during exit interviews (don’t you feel things are turning around, don’t you feel better than 5-11, etc. etc.) And sure, players followed along. But I did not hear fire in the belly. And they were leading questions.

3. We WERE 5-11. And like Shanny said, you are your record.

4. There seems like a tendancy for fans to not believe the bad until a year or two afterwards. Like with Jason Campbell, Malcom Kelly, etc. etc. Yeah…in hindsight “we knew”. But I sure heard the opposite at the time.

5. And I remember someone asking Cooley the leading “aren’t you better than 5-11” and he had some pretty honest answer, like “I don’t know”. Can’t recall the exact words…but it was the gist of that. Very real response…

This man graduated college!?

…oh never mind he went to Auburn

Ur in the 6 an 2 Zorn run, Dont worry Rex Ryan had a great first year or two as well!!!

will the niners pay, just cuz u caught everything this year, and were so hamstrung from those brick gloves that our top ten defensive coaches forced u to wear when u were here, that doesnt mean the niners r gonna give u anything. It helps when u play with all pro’s like justin smith and P. willis, Its not are fault that u could have ended several games here in d.c. if only u caught a spiral fired right into ur both ur mittens. Ur a chump dude, u rip us cuz u couldn’t manage ur own crap, well good luck with ur future either way and I hope ur money management skills improve, cuz u don’t get to blame us for u sleeping on ur agents couch. we do need to improve that secondary and the redskins were right to let him walk, he wasn’t this player ever for us.

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