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2012 Redskins Free Agents, Who Should Stay?

The Redskins are knee deep in rebuild mud, and extra weight may drag them down.

Mike Shanahan and Company have been assessing their options at all positions for Free Agency and the highly awaited 2012 NFL Draft. More than likely every one of the Redskins Free Agents have come up in a conversation involving their potential retention or release. I'll go through some of the Redskins players currently slotted to enter Free Agency this March.

Let's start this off with a bang, er. smoke.....

Fred Davis: Davis was on a career run this season. Before his suspension he had accumulated 59 receptions for 796 yards. In theory, he could have been the Redskins' leading receiver, with Gaffney compiling only 947 yards with 68 receptions. His off-field activities landed him a 4-game suspension and scorn from fans all over the DC Metro area. According to recent 'intelligence', Davis is likely to receive the Franchise Tag. In my opinion, Davis needs to stay. The argument has risen 100-fold for and against him, but that type of high quality play shouldn't be overlooked. He needs to be a Redskin in 2012.

Check out the rest as well as your chance to vote, after the jump...

Star-divide


Here I'll break down the list of Redskins Free Agents Army style, with Alpha being of course the A-team, the guys we need, and Bravo being the B-team, the guys we can get along without. There isn't much room, here, being that there is hardly any REAL depth. But there is definitely SOME room to wiggle a few dollars. There will also be a third list, Charlie, for players who need a certain scenario to pan out for them to stay Redskins, sort of like a 'maybe' list.

Alpha:

Fred Davis, TE: (Above)

London Fletcher, LB: If one player could be considered the heart and soul of the Washington Redskins, it would be the man-in-the-middle, London Fletcher. Though he will be 36 next season, going well against the idea of a rebuild, he cannot be lost. As everybody in Redskins Nation well knows, he led the league in tackles this season, and was so humble about it, almost didn't even make it to the Pro Bowl (For those that don't know, the Pro Bowl is a popularity contest first, talent contest last). I shouldn't even have typed this much, this is a no-brainer.

Tim Hightower, RB: I can hear it now, 'Helu!' or 'Royster!' is echoing from the comments section. I only have one point I need to make, has either sophomore back proven they can handle the workload of a full season? Before Hightower's injury, he was well on his way to a solid season. He needs to stay. Without a running-game, any quarterback we bring in will be unsuccessful. Kyle's offense thrives on play action.

Adam Carriker, DE: Carriker has been relatively solid this year. Jarvis Jenkins will return next season with a head full of steam, and a body recovering from an injury. Throwing Jenkins into the mix right away could be disastrous. Would be better, long term, to keep Carriker around as a stop-gap.

Will Montgomery, C: There is definitely room to improve at center, but Montgomery adds depth at Guard as well. Having someone that can play multiple positions is crucial for this team. Especially, yep you guessed it, when there is virtually no depth.

Bravo:

LaRon Landry, SS: LaRon is pro-bowl talent on the field, and a great bench warmer off of it. He has supported the Redskins in both roles over the last two seasons, playing on 17 games overall. Next season will be another iffy one for him, with his achilles still giving him problems. It's about reliability, here. He needs to go, and open up some money to be used for someone we can count on.

Sean Locklear, OG: The interior line needs some serous work, and I'm not the only one that thinks so. I can easily see the Redskins addressing not one, but multiple facets of this line in either Free Agency, Trades, or the Draft. Locklear can be let go and I wouldn't lose sleep.

Donte Stallworth, WR: I am thinking of all the talent coming onto FA this season at WR, and I can't see a reason to keep Stallworth around. He wasn't the force we thought he was going to be and should clear up a little room with his release.

Charlie:

Rex Grossman, QB: I actually heard your blood pressure rise just then. Let's be honest here, the only reason I would allow, yes allow, Rex Grossman to step on the field in 2012 as a Redskin is if a Rookie is sitting behind him on the bench. If we draft Robert Griffin, kick rocks Rex Grossman.

Phillip Buchanon, DB: The secondary needs to be addressed this offseason. The defensive turnover battle was lost time, and time again. If the Redskins decide to go to FA for a D-back or two (Brandon Carr, anyone?) I would be okay with letting Buchanon go. Otherwise, I will stick with the depth (or lack thereof)

You can find details on all of the Redskins' contracts on my website, here. (Under the Team tab)

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Poll
Who do you think should definitely be a Redskin in 2012 (If you had only one pick)?
London Fletcher, LB
1572 votes
Donte Stallworth, WR
10 votes
Rex Grossman, QB
69 votes
Tim Hightower, RB
62 votes
Fred Davis, TE
499 votes
Rocky McIntosh, LB
22 votes

2234 votes | Poll has closed

0 recs  |  184 comments

Comments

Williams/Davs weed jokes never get old...
I voted Rex Grossman to help stimulate the economy
Yes, he definitely keeps the substance abuse counselors busy
He'll force me to upload one of those "It Gets Better" videos on Youtube.
THAT was funny
I would like those that voted for Davis to defend their position

How is Davis more vital to the Redskins then London?
You really think Fox is equal to London?

It's not a question of who is more vital.
If you only get to choose one player

What is your criteria?

The future, who else is available, etc...

If this team is on the verge of making the playoffs and becoming a perennial contender who is going to have more of an effect down the line? Fletcher or Davis?

You can also look at who else is available. There are A LOT more quality ILBs available via FA and the draft this year than tight ends. Losing London would suck but there are plenty of worth replacements our there, this year.

Playoffs… PLAYOFFS? You've got to be kidding me… playoffs?
Where is the real Parks Smith??
If this team is on the verge of making the playoffs and becoming a perennial contender

Obviously IH8Dallas has kidnapped Parks & taken over his computer…..or maybe he’s using some type of Jedi er Twilight mind control to make him post this.

"IF"
+1

I understood what you were saying.

Haha... I know

Unbridled optimism is not your usual MO.

I'm more optimistic for this team than our fanbase, haha
To be blunt

Are you confident that Davis has put his vice behind him?

It's weed

Not serial killing. You can’t call it a vice, as it is non-addictive.

I voted for Davis

Love London and want him back, but (since I had to pick one) it’s about the future and I think Fred Davis has more value to offer over that future.

Locklear and Stallworth

lost their spots IMO, Willie performed admirably enough to justify himself being our swing tackle as I fully believe we will be bringing in another tackle this offseason to start at RT(by trade or FA). Plus wasn’t he the one that didn’t like the end of season meeting thing?

Stallworth is a victim of age as we just don’t have room for him or another average vet. Our WR corps will look something like Gaffney, Moss, Hank, Paul and some new faces. Robinson stays on the PS

Locklear was the guy who was unhappy with the end of season meeting
That's putting it nicely
Roy Helu was taking notes.

I’m in love with Roy.

Not the marine meeting
What other meeting was there?
Individual exit meetings or lack there of.

Why would the Navy Seals or whatever the hell it was meeting make Locklear mad?

Because Locklear is a piece of sh*t who hates America?
AND

That Shanny didn’t hug him before he left.

He was mad

That Shanny wasn’t in the room.

Sean Locklear is 100% gone, remember his rant after Week 17?
Shanahan basically confirmed as much in his closing presser lol

What a hilarious way of putting someone down… you know, out in public like that lol

I loved how Shanny did that

I was wondering how many people caught on to that.

I must have missed that. Do you have a link?

Just go to the Redskins website

Look in news then go to press conferences. It’s the latest one on there

Bravo list

Equals I don’t care why they are gone. They just need to be

I thought it had to do more with the channel my fiancee always watches but I never watch (wink, wink)
You know you watch it

If your fiance watches it… You have no choice. Take it from a married guy

I don't watch

One show my wife watches. Maybe you need another TV in the house. I could be mean and say something about who wears the pants in your marriage, but I’m not an asshole like that.

haha that's why there is a 54 inch TV down in my man cave, and my fiancee has a nice new 32 inch flat screen in the bedroom

No “inch” jokes on this one guys..

You only gave her 32 inches

And she’s still marrying you?
I actually sacrifice the 52" LCD (best picture ever) just so I can have my plasma to myself. I only use the projector on the weekend. The 100 incher needs to be savored.

So far its working!
Well, that's all that matters

The key to a long marriage is being away from each other as much as possible.

I thought he was already, why was he not cut February 6?
You usually have to be on the team to be cut.
Then somebody needs to update the roster on the front page

Because he is still there (listed as a guard)

Really man? The one on the Redskins site isn't even updated.

Its clearly the 2011 roster as of Week 17, it’ll be updated when FA starts. You thought Grossman and Fletcher were on the team too according to that roster?

You're right, but give me a break

I just got my second dart

We need to upgrade from rhino to elephant darts
It's nice to know

That Rex Grossman is lurking somewhere on this site.

I told you I voted for him.
I didn't think you were serious

So I’m guessing the part about the Fanny Pack convention was legit, too? Did you really get the one with rhinestones?

That was UK, Ken, and Kevin. I've yet to get a fanny pack cool enough to join their club.
Don't worry

Some of us (you) just aren’t meant to be in the cool club. Ever.

no need to dog fanny packs guys

they’re convenient..

There goes another man card
So are tampons

If you’re a female

More lunacy

Now people are voting for Tim Hightower… maybe they are confused–it is Tim Hightower NOT Larry centers.
Five average games as a Redskin before his injury

You need to be hit with a tranquilizer dart today
You mean a larger one
ask your self this question

of the guys on that ballot
who is the only one that would have the remaining 52 guys in the locker room asking WTF? What do you have to do to get re-signed by the Redskins and not let go for a cheaper player?
I only see one

Are you London Fletcher's agent?
Chuck Norris is London Fletcher's agent.
yes

And you know that I am right

Another old person we need to move on from
Name one person who could kick Chuck Noris's ass

And we will move on

Anderson Silva, Tim Tebow, and Ken Meringolo
Brock Lesner, Brad Pitt from Snatch, Jason Statham
I'm not sure where this Chuck Norris crap came from

But it’s always been complete BS. Sweet roundhouse, old man.

Clearly you've never seen "Way of the Dragon"

where he fought Bruce Lee.

In the art of Tang Soo Do (the other main Korean style opposite to Tae Kwan Do), Chuck Norris is legitimately the greatest of all time.

Yes, the movies, tv shows, and jokes are exaggerated, but he was a legitimate martial artist.

Leonardo from the Ninja Turtles would destroy Norris
The Red Power Ranger pwns Norris any day
Chest pubes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqzQ2qrtBeg

Don't hate just because this guy pwned you last week...

funny gifs

This is one of the most disturbing videos I've seen in a long time...
disturbing indeed

But it made me laugh even more disturbingly

Also

If I recall, Norris gets his ass handed to him by Bruce Lee. Def. Not the greatest of all time.

I said he was the greatest of all time in Tang Soo Do. Which he arguably is.

Bruce Lee created his own style…

You do realize

that most of Chuck Norris’s training is in Tae Kwon Do and Chun Kuk Do right. He actually founded the latter one. He is the first westerner to earn an 8th degree bleckbelt in Tae kwon do.

Bruce initially started with Wing Chun then invented Jeet kun Do.

Anyway Something like Krav Maga or Sambo or MCMAP normally wins when those arguments about who is better are brought up. Those 3 have one specific purpose. to kill people. Those 3 are the hand to hand training for Isreali defense force, Spetsnaz and USMC SOC Units

You do realize Jackie Chan can scale a ferris wheel in ten seconds.

Deal with that.

So.

If I need someone to get me down, he’s got the job.

You do realize

that you are incorrect. Most of his training is Tang Soo Do:

Listed as a notable in Tang Soo Do
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tang_soo_do

Chuck Norris’ page verifies that his training started as and was predominantly Tang Soo Do
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Norris

And even the style he created Chun Kuk Do is based on Tang Soo Do and is called “American Tang Soo Do”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chun_Kuk_Do

You do realize that I can edit every one of those pages, right?
Chuck Norris' fighting style is brought to you by our sponsors:

and

Chuck Norris is an actor and even in his prime would have been handled by any UFC fighter including the 135lbs fighters.

Same goes fro Bruce Lee. They were actors people.

uh they were also very accomplished fighters as well

Just b/c Shaq was great in Blue Chips didn’t mean he couldn’t still dominate the boards

Chuck Norris was a karate fighter. The best karate fighter in the world would be handled in less than 1 minute by the scrubs you see fighting on the Ultimate Fighter reality show.

This is fighting?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nst4V8BKNF0&feature=related

Hahaha, anyone who calls this fighting and the participants “fighters” is either delusional or insane.

I met Chuck Norris once when I was a wee lad

So I have an affinity for him. As a result, I don’t believe any man (past or present) can beat Chuck Norris. Bruce Lee only won because Chuck was feeling compassionate during the filming of Enter the Dragon purely due to the fact that Chuck has the ability to look through space and time to see that both Bruce and his son would die young.

Jackie Chan is better than the both of them.
As long as he has a ladder
Watch the OLD Jackie Chan stuff.
I'm agreeing with you derp
Yea Ronnie check out Rush Hour 1 not 2
Haha

He’s talking about The Drunken Master and his REALLY old stuff

Exactly. The shit where he's kicking bowls of rice onto his head and all that.
Wasting food....

Sounds like a jerk to me

Awesome!!!

I wonder if he will get 20 takes in a real fight.

Can Jackie Chan say this:

You mean... like pronounce it?

No. ‘Abirity’

that's messed up, haha
The truth hurts

The blooper reels from Rush Hour (basically all of them) have Jackie F-ing up every single word.

Do you know how many takes it took to get all those action scenes right?

The number of times Jackie missed his mark or kicked too low? Perhaps you need to watch the blooper reels, because Jackie makes a ton of mistakes.

Fact: Chuck Norris has never needed to shoot a scene more than once. He is perfect on ever take.

Everybody SHUT UP about Jackie!

He’s the greatest, END OF STORY!

I like Chen, too. He was stellar in Rumble in the Bronx

But I’m biased towards Norris, the God among men.

He also had a high ankle sprain in Shanghai Noon, Owen Wilson had to pick up the slack
Injuries definitely hurt his stock
Liam Neeson from Taken
You mean Liam Neeson in everything

Guy is always looking for something and is pissed

Clint Eastwood in The Unforgiven.

Drops the mic and walks off.

Sorry. Great, GREAT movie

But Philo Bedo would whip that dude’s ass. He just would.

Liam Neeson in Taken 2
I wish

I loved that movie. A sequel would be awesome, but who would they take this time?

apparently they are working on a sequel, not sure of the plot
Makes sense

Awesome movies deserve sequels, though they seldom live up to billing.

the father of the guy he electrocuted is coming for his wife IIRC
Just curious, not that I want him back but... why is Rocky McIntosh in the poll but not in the article?
Yeah, there are a lot of free agents not on that list
You're the FA nazi
I had him on the list along with a few others, but I wanted to condense it

It was getting pretty long.

Yea no one likes long post (cough KEN cough cough)
I'm gonna remain quiet here...
I just want Ronnie to admit he doesn't want to get rid of his Rocky McIntosh lounging in South Beach fathead
Parks SHUTUP

I told you that if you said ANYTHING about that I was going to let everyone know about your ‘Curiosity’ trip to Cobalt.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&ved=0CFsQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cobaltdc.com%2F&ei=W3Q5T5WALoTr0QHutPylAg&usg=AFQjCNHzL-TznBOlfpe8gxQMrhiSFaXGjQ&sig2=wVy2EF8K_mgs5kjod_tA9w

I don't know what that is, but I'm not clicking it at work...
Don't click it at home either

As you were not married yet.
Unless you are gunning for "best package" prize money

I've won Best Package two years in a row. HOLLA!
I wasn't going to mention that, but since you did

I also notice you host open mic night

Heard you did a pretty good rendition of

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

Curse you Ronnie, curse you

"Thumbs-up if you came here on purpose"
if that just stuck in my head you have a new enemy

I

Just want to tell you how I feel

Great, now I need another dart

Fletcher and Davis (I like the franchise tag idea for him) stay. I would also be inclined to keep Landry, although I don’t think he will be a redskin next year. If the Skins land Myers, then I would let Monty walk. If they decide to draft a C, then keep Monty around for insurance. I’d also keep Golston and Hightower. I would not resign Carriker and the the rest of them

The rules are you only get to pick one
Fine

Rich Milot

Really? I think I would've gone with Monty
good point

that guy never slowed down

Everyone is down on Monty, I like the guy.

I can’t help but think how much better he’d be with actual football players playing next to him.

Monty is awesome. I'm in his fanclub.
You weren't at the last meeting. We made our annual underwear order, we just used the records from last year

and got you reverse-thong style. I hope that suits you.

That will make him a lock

For best package three years in a row

Damn! I wanted the Boy Shorts with the "Hands Go Here" on the back.

That tells the QB where to put them, FYI.

Wait a minute

According to Tiller, he has Pro bowl talent on both sides

My bad, I forgot about that... sorry
The Skins only choices for center maybe to resign montgomery or to draft a center.

Add 100 to each in order to express their 2011 performance in positive numbers.
Chris Myers C 7 HOU UFA 29.8 1060 — 130
Scott Wells C 8 GB UFA 18 1055 — 118
Will Montgomery C 6 WAS UFA -6.4 1103 — 94
http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/01/12/2012-free-agent-tracker/
Houston and Green Bay will try to keep these guys.

I like Carriker

We have a mean DLine rotation next year.

Gotta resign London...

As much talent as Fred Davis has and as big as he could be in our offense, one more dance with Mary Jane is a giant waste of money and talent.

With that being said, sign London and franchise Freddy.

Good Plan

sign London and franchise Freddy.

F.Davis is too much like S.Moss

They both may have a good game but when u need that big play at end of the game to win it they both choke !!! We need players who can play under the big lights.Also i think Shannys offense makes T.E look better than they really are !

WHAT!!!!

Santana is about as clutch as it gets.

don't listen to people who pluralize with "z" in their name.
Tough break for AzzCatz
Shut up S.Boy1
Smutzboy out.
hahaha, please temporarily pardon my footsteps...

I wish that guy would come back.

Community Chest: If Vontaze Burfict is sitting in the green room at #39, do you take him?
In a vacuum, in a heartbeat

If one of the other top CBs are still there, nope

nope

I don’t think the Redskins Locker Room is strong enough (even with london) to risk it

my guess is he's an eagle or giant

But I’d take him at 39, I like violence and I don’t think he’s a locker room cancer, just a loose screw

You're Hightower statement

Is a little hypocritical
First you say

has either sophomore back proven they can handle the workload of a full season?

Then, in the very next statement, you say

Before Hightower’s injury, he was well on his way to a solid season.

I was saying that we need the three

Not just Hightower and not Just Helu/Royster. If Tim’s not injured he can hold the weight. Sorry for not catering my statement to your wishes.

Whoa, simmer down there Sparky

I wasn’t trying to rile you up. I guess maybe “hypocritical” was a poor word choice. I was just pointing out that you made it sound like Hightower was more dependable than Helu and Royster. At least that was my take.

Oh, and I forgive you.

just saying Hightower had never missed a game before tearing his ACL

so he kinda shows why you need good depth, if even the most durable backs can have a serious injury.

Completely agree
i think we all agree sexy rexy is most vital.

LFB- Yes, two year deal
Hightower- camp invite (1 yr deal), wasn’t tearing it up before the injury and coming off an acl injury if he loses a step he’ll be out of the league.
Carricker- No, going to want starter/Bowen money. Not worth it.
Monty- No, Sign FA Chris Meyers- upgrade
Landry- 1 yr deal, highly incentivized. Won’t get a longterm deal anywhere.
Locklear- No
Stallworth- No
Grossman- No
Buchanan- No

*incentivized

Oh, and Franchise Davis and make him earn a longterm deal.

You also forgot Lichtensteiger- if healthy then he is also a priority.

fixed it for you
Monty- No, Sign FA Chris Meyers- upgrade for about 2-3 years until he has a 2010 Rabach-esque year, and is cut with much questions of “why did we sign him in the first place?”
huh?

why is Myers only good for another 2-3 years? Why would he have a Rabachesque year? And why would the Skins ever question why they signed him?

Strictly... Strictly.. address

London Fletcher as top priority, and secondly Tim Hightower…

Fred DAvis

fred davis is a beast

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