Hogs Haven

Grubbs could definately become available

With Ray Rice allegedly wanting AP money and Flacco wanting top 5 QB money there isn’t gonna be a lot left to go around. Of course I am sure these are just the agents starting points.

Flacco thinks he's worth top 5 QB money

Bwahahahahaha,

dude, consistently put up top 5 QB performances and then you’ll get your top 5 QB money. RBased on your least couple of years you’re only worth top 15-20 money. Where would you be without Rice?

I think Potter is 4-5 rd prospect according to a few scouting sites

I think he may go in the 3rd or 4th rd pick.

Potter is a legit prospect

who IMO, fits our scheme to a tee

Nick is (via Schefter) looking for more than what Evans signed for.

I’d pass, no OG is worth more than 56 mil.

Diesel44 - February 21, 2012 reply

*Nicks of course

Diesel44 - February 21, 2012 reply

Did anyone see sports center last night

on Trent Richardson training at the Elite Athletes facility? Damn, I knew he was strong, but that shit was ridiculous. He very well may break the record for 225 for RB’s. I expect 30+ reps – anyone want the under?

Trent Richardson is a beast

He runs with a lot of power, i seen a piece on him before this college season saying how when he was as freshman at Alabama that he was breaking all kinds of strength records right out of high school

I couldn't stop laughing when I heard that his college coaches wouldn't let him bench over 460

Wish I could say I had that problem!

Trent Richardson is a horse.

If we end up drafting him, because RG3 is gone I won’t be upset.

He was reping 150lb dumbells

that’s sick

I don't see

Shanny taking a RB in the first round, but you never know. I think they would have to spin Helu into another draft pick.

It isn't happening

In his book with Schefty he says that RB isn’t worth taking in the first round.

Jeff Bernard - February 21, 2012 reply

I'm OK with that

Although, to this day, I’d rather have Adrian Peterson over Laron Landry.

absolutely

and to me it depends on the RB. Would you draft Walter Payton in the 1st round? I would.

but that was also different

at the time we ran a tougher running system, with the ZBS the guys can be highly successful if they have good vision and cutback ability.

That is exactly why Foster is so dominant, and what the focus needs to be for the Skins. As great as AP and Richardson are, they are almost a waste in our system.

Steve Shoup - February 21, 2012 reply

almost but not quite

I wouldn’t draft him for this team because we have bigger needs but if we weren’t hurting in so many other places I’d take him. Having someone who can go all the way at any given time creates a lot of problems for defenses so it would also help out our passing game (assuming the defense would put 8 guys in the box).

Yes, we have

MUCH bigger needs. And I don’t want us to draft Richardson, nor do I think we will. But I wouldn’t go so far as to say he’d be a “waste” in our system.
Having a dominant back could never be a waste. At some point, no matter what the system, he’s gonna encounter guys who want to tackle him. I think it’s more accurate to say he’d be a luxury we don’t need.

i'm not saying

he’d be ‘a waste’ in our system in the sense that he wouldn’t be successful. I think Richardson will be 1,200 yard back in any system, but his skill set doesn’t mesh as well with our system. It’s like bringing in Tom Brady for Shanny’s system, could he be succesful? Of course, hes a great QB. But the system doesn’t fit all of his strengths so you are kinda ‘wasting’ talent. Instead of being a top 3 QB, he might only be the 5th or 7th best QB running Shanny’s system.

Then the other aspect I was trying to convey is that since the effectiveness of this system is predicated so much on vision and cutting ability, the Redskins can more easily find that level of production in a cheaper form.

i would rather have nearly anyone from that draft than Laron Landry.

Landry hasn’t done jack in this league except show everyone how big his guns are. It kind of ruins your rep as a tough guy in the league when you get trucked by Jacobs.

Jeff Bernard - February 21, 2012 reply

there were 10 Pro Bowlers taken in the 1st round after Landry.

Jeff Bernard - February 21, 2012 reply

Yep

He wasn’t even the best SAFETY taken. I wanted AP, but even Joe Staley woulda been nice.

In all fairness to our scouts

Landry was a heck of a college prospect at LSU. I know hindsight is 20/20, but I think if the same situation presented itself over again, Landry could be the guy. He was so fast and athletic. Unfortunately, the death of Sean Taylor prompted the move to FS, and that move proved to be a poor one, and stunted his growth some. Also the injuries haven’t helped.

I know it’s not fair to say, but If the taylor tradgedy had never happened, we all may be looking at Landry in a different light.

Tiller56 - February 22, 2012 reply

All true

And I got on board with the Landry pick once it was made, even though he wasn’t MY first (or second, or third) choice. And yes, he never should’ve been moved to FS. But, in the end, I think the blame for him not living up to expectations falls squarely on HIS shoulders. HE chose to skip the offseason workouts which, in the least, shows he doesn’t have what it takes to be a team leader. He also chose to spend more time perfecting his physique than perfecting his craft. And, lastly (until I think of something else at least), HE’S the one who is more worried about delivering the “Sportcenter hit” than actually tackling (see: wrapping up) a guy.

Oh yeah, I knew I was forgetting something. HE also is the one who chooses to look like an idiot by celebrating bringing a guy down after he just gave up a twenty yard gain.

CJHutch - February 22, 2012 reply

hey we should be happy it wasn't a 21 yard gain!

Revis...god why didn't we take him

haha nope

I expect 30+ reps – anyone want the under?

Steve Shoup - February 21, 2012 reply

I think Bowe will end up getting the Franchise tag

with the Routt signing

Yes

That’s what it looks like now; which really sucks.

Colston is still an option though. I just don’t think he’s as big a threat as Bowe

We're signing Manningham in free agency.

Then we're still without a true #1

I'm not so much concerned about having a "1" receiver.

I would much rather the team have three or four good receivers, like Green Bay and New Orleans.

GB and NO all have #1's though

Jennings is one of the leagues best

I think Hankerson is going to develop into a very good receiver.

I would like to sign a FA WR but it dont have to be a big name guy

I like the depth in this draft and it depends on what the teams plans at QB are to what kinda WR i would be looking to get. If i was thinking about bringing in a veteran guy like Matt Flynn, Manning, Orton or somebody like that to be my starter for the whole season (which i am not in favor of) then i would look to get a guy like Colston, Bowe or VJax.

But if RG3 is going to be my QB i would rather sign a guy like Meachum, Stevie Johnson. and then draft a WR in the 3rd Rd i love the WR depth in this draft get a big target that has all around WR skills, and if i could get a deep threat WR in the draft as well. to go along with Hankerson, Paul.

If Stevie Johnson is not tagged

then he’d be a sure target of mine, but I have a feeling that he’ll get tagged or get a long-term deal as crunch time bears down on us.

on the positive side

Carr will likely be available but at a high price.

Not worth it IMO

we have other more pressing needs.

I’d actually rather see Myers added before Carr

I agree

and I think Carr is going to want too much $ anyway

Isn't it funny how everyone was wanting to depend so much on all of these free agents that were going to be available...now it looks like Nicks is off the market, and Bowe....

StephanHart - February 21, 2012 reply

Nicks is not off the market yet............This from PFT

We can’t imagine the Saints can afford to pay Nicks that much money with Evans already on the books and Brees about to get a monster contract. The only way the Saints can possibly keep Nicks will be to sign Brees before March 5, then use the tag on Nicks.

Based on Nicks’ comment Tuesday, we don’t think he would be too pleased to play on a one-year contract this season.

The Saints need to get Brees locked up before the 5th of march. If not, they’ll be forced to use the Franchise Tag on him. If this happens, no way the saints can afford 2 guards(Evans and Nicks), at almost 20 million per year.

which means they will try to trade Nicks for at least a 1st round pick

I'm curious.

Stanford Routt was signed yesterday, but free agency doesn’t begin until March 13. Is this because he was released?

Yes

I thought the exact same thing when I saw he had signed

Yes

If your released, you go through waivers, then can become a FA as soon as you clear them.

so nobody claimed him? weird

smutsboy1 - February 21, 2012 reply

I'm not sure what his contract was like, but it could be no one wanted to pick up his contract, wanted to negotiate a new deal instead

StephanHart - February 21, 2012 reply

He was due a bonus if I'm not mistaken

so the team that claimed him would have had to pay that bonus

i'm pretty sure he didn't have to go through Waivers given how long he's been in the league

if I’m not mistaken, the waiver period only affects players with less than 5 years (might be 4) of service time for the entire season. Veteran players only have to go on waivers if they are cut after the trade deadline (while the season is still going on). Its done so vets can pick their new team. Guys like Orton and McNabb had to go through waivers b/c it was still during the season and after the trade deadline.

He was cut though b/c he had a bonus coming due

Tandler's article on Centers

Peter Konz of Wisconsin is the top-rated center prospect at the moment and he would be a fit in the zone scheme. If center is a priority for the Redskins they could end up taking him in the second or third round. That seems unlikely but if they like him at the combine they could find the combination of his size and athletic ability hard to bypass.

Tandler must be smoking crack if he thinks Konz will last to the 2nd or 3rd(at the very worst, I could see early 2nd, and thta’s if he completely shits the bed at the combine)

I didn't know there was a bed test at the combine

I bet that’s really boring to watch!

I depends on if they make him hold an enima in a la japanese game shows

Japanese game shows are awesome. Their prank shows are even better.

On of the first Japanese tv pranks I saw was

A guy would walk up to a person drop a suitcase beside them and the take off running. The second Japanese tv prank I saw was Osaka-bowl

can't see him going past

the 1st, unless he is a disaster at the combine

Redskin44 - February 21, 2012 reply

Jason Campbell called off his wedding.

He always had happy feet and buckled under pressure.

+1

Copious 1 - February 21, 2012 via Android app reply

HAHAHA +1

That is completely true my friends coworker was invited and Campbell called it off the night before people got really mad

Benson L - February 21, 2012 reply

rodskins was going to conduct

the ceremony

Redskin44 - February 21, 2012 reply

Seems i'm unable to reply to comments

and only post new ones, anyone else having this problem?

PJ_21 - February 21, 2012 reply

Nope

ptowny - February 21, 2012 reply

and just like that it's working again

bizarre

PJ_21 - February 21, 2012 reply

It's a Fringe event.

I have been giving Laroning a try today

This morning I was walking into the gas station to get some coffee and I tripped on the curb immediately taking two or three awkward steps towards the door trying to regain my composure. As soon as I was able to stand up straight I turned around unleashed the gun show first looking down at the curb then out into the parking lot. Unfortunately there was only one person filling up and he was concentrating on the task at hand. Perhaps I should have let out a growl.

I don’t know what has gotten into me today. In one of those goofy moods I guess.

I could have only dreamed of seeing this!!

Still cracking up! hahahahaha

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82712545/article/redskins-haslett-forced-to-deny-qb-talk-after-fans-report?module=HP11_headline_stack

From NFL.com

It just happens that Denny has his own fan blog devoted to the Redskins under the nom de plume of “Rodskins” and later wrote a fan post detailing his conversation with Haslett.

His own fan blog is a link to hogshaven.com

SSBlitz - February 21, 2012 reply

Its like writing a letter to the editor for the opinion column

and someone unfamiliar with the paper saying I am the papers publisher. Talk about bad journalism.

I don't know.

“his own fan blog” could simply mean that he has a place where he likes to hang out and discuss Redskins, and they even got the vernacular (“fan post”) right.

I didn’t read the sentence as necessarily implying that Rodskins owns this website, although I can certainly see how others would read it that way. NFL.com could have worded it better, but I don’t think they were being lazy or dishonest. Just my two cents.

Skin Patrol - February 21, 2012 reply

I understand what your saying but clarity is usually a good thing when communicating.

If you look at some of the comments on that story, several people read it as SSBlitz did and as I did yesterday.

you’re*

GAHHH can we stop drafting secondary players, PLEASE

I want to see a good offense AGAIN in my lifetime.

Redskins offensive line thoughts – NFC East Blog – ESPN

smutsboy1 - February 21, 2012 reply

This my friend

is why we need RG3

I want to see a good offense AGAIN in my lifetime.